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Here's a vote for sometimes starting over at the beginning.  I'm at one of those frustration points where I don't think I'm making any progress.  My intonation is really off due to concentrating on e flat and b flat.  It drags down my whole hand frame when I try to go back to the "simple" scales.  So I went back and watched some of the first videos.  It's amazing what you see differently from the first time you watch it.  Some of the words that didn't stand out as much the first time have more meaning the second time.  Probably because, in my case, I can only focus on a little at a time.  I must now be ready for the other part of that instruction.  Even the Suzuki songs that I thought were incredibly difficult seemed easier(though I may not still play that well.)  I may just go back and finish book 1. Those minuets were the devil to me.  I think I can do them now.  I'm so grateful for these videos. 

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Posted: March 16, 2012

Jim Gross
I thought this was going to be easy.  first, my grandson says that camera will never do. Buy new camera.  Grandson says, sound won't do.  Buy a mic.  Now I'm horrified at my progress.  Well, we got to start somewhere.  So, this is the start.  Hopefully, some progress will be made before the workshop in July.  I'm having fun even if it doesn't look like it.  I started in the first week of January, so this is where I'm at at two and a half months.
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Posted: March 15, 2012

I'd like to share some recent observations about my progress over the past 6-8 months using Beth's lessons:

As an older adult with no history of playing an instrument, my brain had no frame of reference to use to organize new muscle actions.  Cognitive confusion was rampant, and without smooth cognitive functioning, there is no hope of getting the muscles sorted out.

My brain loves Beth's mini lessons showing how a particular skill is executed.  Actually, my brain catches on very quickly once I can watch the mechanics and hear Beth's explanation of the sequence of movements and what to listen for. 

I had a horrible, horrible left hand Death Grip.  People said inane things like "just relax".  It was so frustrating;  if I could "just relax", I wouldn't have been using a Death Grip. I do  know they were trying to be helpful though.

Beth's video explanation of why Death Grip's develop provided the explanation of what muscles needed to activate and what muscles needed to be quieted.  That was so helpful. Now I understood why "just relax" wasn't at all accurate.  I had a plan and specific exercises.

In addition, about 6 months ago, I started doing Yoga  4-6 times a week.  I use  a very simple routine in the morning,  gentle stretching is a great way to start the day.  But the biggest reward has been training my mind and body to notice the sensation of being really relaxed.  This has transferred to my violin playing.

Knowing what muscles to activate, which muscles to quiet, and targeted exercises to mindfully practice these skills are making a huge difference in my playing.   I find myself surreptitiously doing knuckle and finger independence exercises all the time at work or when waiting at a traffic light. 

Thank you, Beth!

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Posted: March 17, 2012

Jenn A

I think it is time for new strings. It looks like two of my strings are beginning to unwind (I think?) They have a funny shiny spot, almost looks like a kink so I suppose that is what I am looking at.

I tried a search on the community here about string suggestions.  I currently am using Dominants, I do not have a gripe with them however many of you noticed such a huge difference with Obligato that I am curious to plunk down the extra $25 to try them.
What are your suggestions for the D string?  Aluminum or silver?  And I saw that some of you had trouble with the e string, I do not currently have that with the Dominant and do not want to encounter that, would you suggest I get the Kaplan and not the Obligato e string to be on the safe side?

Sorry for all the questions, I did see Dominants on sale too and almost want to get them because I haven't had trouble with them, but I am so tempted to try the better string if that improves tone that would be fantastic!

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Posted: March 17, 2012

Jennifer Nankey
Hi everyone, just a questions/thought. I have 4 or 5 bows at home and sometimes I'll kind of use them all, just to compare. I have not decided on my favorite yet which I will ultimately use most of the time. The thing that is wierd though is that the cheap Glasser bow, which is not even horse hair - it is only synthetic hair (and the bow is not even wood! it's fiberglass I believe), seems to give the BEST response, even when I play ever so lightly. All of the horse hair bows do not have this same level of response, and they are rosined just fine. I really do like the great responsiveness but I don't exactly want to be using what's probably a student bow and what definitely LOOKS like a student bow. Thoughts or comments?

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Posted: March 14, 2012


Hi Beth,

When I mark a song's sheet music for a taper, would I use an acsent mark on the the note before or is there an actual symbol?  Right now I'm writing taper under the two notes.



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Posted: March 14, 2012

Being careful not to let "fiddle" take over at the possibly for those late night sessions this would be a fun tune I think for a couple folks to take on and play around with.

It's called "Growling Old Man and Woman" and it's basically an argument between this old man and his wife I suppose.   It's pretty simple but I can imagine a couple of good fiddlers could get a lot of fun playing around with the as the old man, the other as the woman.....adjusting the argument and the tone throughout, answering one another.  

Anyway, thought I'd post it   :-) 

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Posted: March 13, 2012

Angelo Buonicore
HI everyone. With  a past experience studying piano and composition when I was younger age (and then doing a completely different job in life while keeping listening and playing music an enjoyable background) I decided at 47 to learn violin. I always loved the depth in harmonic "color" you can reach with this instruments and finally I broke the ice and bought myself a study violin to start.
I know I have a long long journey in front of me (in 2 weeks I learnt to play the first scale in a major and the very simple little twinkle tune) but the challenge is largely counterbalanced from the joy of playing this beautiful instrument.

What is a good progression of exercise/method to start getting a good articulation of the left hand on the fingerboard ?

Thank Beth and your ViolinLab site for the excellent guidance you provide


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Posted: March 11, 2012

Jen McColley
Hi Beth,
I just watched your video on Intonia (which is the best thing ever!) and I was wondering what you meant by "we nudge our 7ths and major thirds a little higher, that it creates more function"?  As a pianist, I'm frightened by this concept of different tunings. My teacher was just recently explaining this to me, how she has to tune "up" to different instruments that she plays with.  What a foreign concept to a solo pianist who has never played with other musicians before!  So I'm guessing by "up" you mean slightly sharper?  But why 7ths and major thirds? 

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Posted: March 14, 2012


Hi Beth,

I've been using the intonia software for intonation-can (almost) play from G Major 2 octave scale in the white. And I've been using it for volume control. At first I thought my hearing was way off since the graph had me going everywhich way with sudden drops in volume consistently in the middle of the bow. So I focused on what exactly the bow was doing on the microscopic level. SOUNDING POINT! My bow seemed not seemed but it was skating all over the place, say a 1/4 inch or more in either direction. Which influenced the volume, or do I have that wrong?

If I'm right we could use the software to help control which of the five sounding points we want to use.


P.S. I'm using the m&m tube idea for (yes treats) but also to learn vibrato (from one of your videos) but I tweeked the exercise. Instead of curling all the fingers at the same time I roll the tube of m&ms using each finger individually which(I'M hoping will unstick fingers which are in their 50's and who have been stone carving for 20 years) :)

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Posted: March 12, 2012

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