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Gregory Gillis
John Williamís 
Schindlerís List

I debated whether to post this early effort at playing this beautiful piece. My intonation was unbearable in so many places & my bowing was very rough at spots (I lost contact with string, bow was too close to bridge) but this a starting place. I now can fix the areas what needs work. I just found Bethís video on this piece on her YouTube page. 
Gregory Gillis
27 Responses
Posted: September 2, 2019
Last Comment: October 15, 2019
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Gregory Gillis
Posted: October 15, 2019
Thanks for taking time to listen
Thanks for your input. Your responses to my take 3 on Schindlerís List encourage me to keep trying to improve in expressing myself through my violin playing. You may have noticed I started a new thread. The new thread helps me track my efforts.

MariaTess
Posted: October 15, 2019



Gregory,

You made me cry listening to your playing...So much expression in this!

Lost for words...


Dianne, I agree with you and thank you much for your comment on my practice -appreciate it much...

Dianne
Posted: October 15, 2019
Gregory, I simply cannot believe the beautiful rich tone and rich vibrato in this recording- just the whole thing. This entry is performance level work. Bravo on this. You really are a great player and all your work is paying off. There is just so much story here as well, I am deeply moved listening to this. You have captured it in your technique. You simply can't play like this without underlying technique to very high levels. The vibrato is also unwavering, expressive, and adds so much. Intonation is perfect. It tells the story.

Dianne
Posted: October 15, 2019
Nice playing Gregory. Yes, it is so important to be able to monitor progress for encouragement and confidence that we are inching toward our goals. I'm going to record my trouble piece next week- forgot to tonight- and put it up on speakers and when I can play with the fluxing tempos, then I know I will have made progress. I actually cannot wait to do this. It will be fun. Metronome work is too easy in this respect. But I digress, the new site will be fantastic!

Gregory Gillis
Posted: October 15, 2019
This discussion includes members-only video content

Schindler's List (take 3)
I decided to take a break from working on sautille' bowing, the art of the floppy wrist. I think I have made great strides towards sautille' so I thought I'd go back to Schindler's List to see whether I've improved in tone production. I believe I have better control of the bow today. Listing to the video I heard a few bad notes but I can fix that easy. I still must master micro management of phrasing and tone coloring.

On 8/15 I joined this club and then made a commitment to playing on regular basis. I have learn many things in the 2 months I've explored that resources here at Violinlab.com. With the changes coming in November I am sure I'll be able to chart my course and monitor my progress better.

Gregory Gillis
Posted: September 17, 2019
Sarah/Gillis Collaborate
Sarah, maybe you can make a midi file of the piano part. Upload the file link to this thread then I can try to play along with piano & then upload result. What do you think?

Sarah Bondi
Posted: September 17, 2019
Gregory,  this is sarah.  It would be so nice to play together..i just dont know how to do it.

Karen Egee
Posted: September 15, 2019
Beautiful peice you play with passion! Love hearing you improve!

Grant Wolfe
Posted: September 13, 2019
Bravo Gregory! Anything you improve from here is just icing on the cake as far as Im concerned!

Gregory Gillis
Posted: September 10, 2019
Thanks so much Sharlene! I have always strived to reach perfection in all I do. Before life interfered with my body (legs, back, nerves) my violin level was quite high. As a kid & young man violin playing seemed to come easy for me. 

I am, we are, so blessed to have such an extraordinary talented teacher as Beth. I feel this next year will be pivotal in my journey reconnecting with my violin.

Now I only wish to find the phrases, to tell the story. To make my violin speak again. I only have the rest of my life to relearn this most perfect instrument. When my violin playing can put a smile form on your face or causes a tear to fall your eyes then I know I come close to being its friend. 

#schindlerslist #lifemusic

Sharlene R.
Posted: September 9, 2019
Gregory,
I just want to tell you that your interpretation of Schindler's List was beautiful.  It's not always perfect intonation and technique that we as listeners seek, it's feeling and passion, and that, my friend, you have shared with us.  Thank you.

Dianne
Posted: September 8, 2019
That 2nd section starting at m.21 really spoke. I believe these tutorials have been redone since the last time I saw them, what a tutorial! If only to play like that! I can see why this is advanced. You are not just playing notes, you are pouring all violin technique into the piece. I better keep working hard. Thanks for letting us journey along.

Can anyone help Gregory with how to embed on iPad? I have no idea.

Gregory Gillis
Posted: September 8, 2019
Sarah when I get my performance of this piece where Iím happy we must figure a way to make it happen. 

Sarah Bondi
Posted: September 8, 2019
This is such a beautiful song.  I play the accompaniment to this piece on the piano.  It would be nice to connect via the computer and play together...although I am not tech savy and am not sure how this would sound.   Just a thought!

Gregory Gillis
Posted: September 8, 2019
Work continues
Finding notes and inflection points in parts 2 & 3 of 
Schindlerís List. 

The camera location was horrible this time. Once I sat down I was too lazy to change location but my process of moving the piece to a place where itís more than just notes is illustrated here, I think.  


Gregory Gillis
Posted: September 7, 2019
More work to do
Thanks for the encouragement Beth. It means very much to me. I agree I need to micro manage each phrase, note & sound. Your videos are awesome! Thank you.

Beth Blackerby
Posted: September 7, 2019
That's really quite excellent, Gregory. Again, your intonation is so good! Also, your rhythmic stability is excellent. You have such well developed musical skills. Be careful with your up bows. Occasionally, when you go to an up bow, there is a little tiny surge of speed that makes it bumpy. It's subtle, but I think if you watch for it in your video you'll notice it. 

 My overall observation is that you're now at the point to get more and more detailed about crafting the phrasing. Have you watched videos #331-338 yet?  These videos totally apply to you. Even though your already an expressive player, micro-managing every single nuance of phrasing is how you'll get the "Professional polish". I'd love to hear what happened when you make slightly calculated differences in sounding point, bow speed/pressure, etc.

Beth Blackerby
Posted: September 7, 2019
That's really quite excellent, Gregory. Again, your intonation is so good! Also, your rhythmic stability is excellent. You have such well developed musical skills. Be careful with your up bows. Occasionally, when you go to an up bow, there is a little tiny surge of speed that makes it bumpy. It's subtle, but I think if you watch for it in your video you'll notice it. 

 My overall observation is that you're now at the point to get more and more detailed about crafting the phrasing. Have you watched videos #331-338 yet?  These videos totally apply to you. Even though your already an expressive player, micro-managing every single nuance of phrasing is how you'll get the "Professional polish". I'd love to hear what happened when you make slightly calculated differences in sounding point, bow speed/pressure, etc.

Dianne
Posted: September 6, 2019
Sounding good!

Gregory Gillis
Posted: September 6, 2019
Schindler still needs work
Schindlerís List
Still a work in progress 


I need to pull out the metronome, fine tune a few trouble intervals with intonia and then refine more (continuous vibrato & connected bowing). However, I feel better about this stage Iím at compared to my first attempt.

I canít find the embed option using YouTube iPad app. Am I over looking it? 


Gregory Gillis
Posted: September 4, 2019
Thanks Barb (May I call you Barb?)! I watched Schindlerís List in 1994. The story evoked so many emotions in my soul. The music kept me in tears. 

I never studied this piece. It was composed about 20 years after my peak performance years. I made a effort to played it by ear after the first time I heard it performed. Of course that was a train wreck. Now with music in hand and with Bethís 3 part tutorial Iím driven to do this very complicated beautiful testimonial music justice. I must admit this composition is more difficult than the notes on the page.

Barbara Habel
Posted: September 3, 2019
Dear Gregory

Thank you for sharing this with a good view on the fingerboard and your bowing so I can see how really difficult this piece is.

Loved the rhythm and the fast section at the end that you played really well.

Nice bowing. Never mind the slight loss of contact of the bow. If I could play this piece this well as you do I would be very thrilled.

Congratulations!!!!

Timothy Smith
Posted: September 3, 2019
Gregory, Not sure when you made this video.You are certainly moving in the right direction with this.This version was not at all unpleasant to listen to. You want an example of really bad intonation ? Look no further than my video of the "Drunken Sailors" . I'm ashamed to say I was the person in that video. I think my ears somehow drop tuned a few cents. That one I made probably makes a great way to call cows in for a milking. I wouldn't say much more about it than that. 

Gregory Gillis
Posted: September 3, 2019
Thanks Dianne! Iím new to the community and still finding my way around. 

Dianne
Posted: September 3, 2019
I clicked on Video Lessons Library at the top of the VLab screen, then I entered  'Schindler' in the Search Videos field because 2 of the videos don't have the apostrophe, and got a listing of the 3 videos.

Gregory Gillis
Posted: September 3, 2019
Diane where is the 3 part tutorial in the library? I stumbled upon Bethís video on Youtube. It would be more convenient for me if I could go directly to it from violin.lab community.

Dianne
Posted: September 3, 2019
Such a nice piece to work on! Yes there is a 3-part tutorial in the video library here. You are at a level where you can work on this and get it polished no problem! I look forward to that time! But if I stop to work on something like this I might get it after a very long time but if I work through the Suzuki books one at a time (back in Book 4 right now) and then work on this when in Suzuki Book VI where it is suggested repertoire, perhaps that would be better. Good luck!