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Timothy Smith
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This song was titled " The Drunken Sailor's" I think that apostrophe probably doesn't belong there.
I realize the subject matter isn't the best. I can barely get through this sober let alone if I were drunk :)
I was given it to learn as the last thing my teacher gave me before she prepared to move away, so I've been chiseling away at it. Intonation is pretty bad in places. Not much else to say. It isn't super technical, doesn't get into Suzuki 4-5 kind of techniques. 
It is what it is and I am where I am.....boy that was enlightening :)
Here is the link to the music if you want to give it a try-
Apologize for the odd faces. I'm getting some dental work done and my mouth feels weird. These videos are almost too revealing sometimes.


Timothy Smith
8 Responses
Posted: August 13, 2019
Last Comment: August 16, 2019
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Jaime - Orlando , Fl
Posted: August 16, 2019
Timothy, well played!
Love your intonation and timing, and the depth of the violin sound is amazing! :0)

Timothy Smith
Posted: August 15, 2019
Sara Bondi, Thank you for this. It seems to be a part of my personality lol. Being a lefty maybe it's my other arm that gets tense? I hope you will post a video. With violin especially, I think progress can cause more angst or lack of it. No matter where we are we don't often feel we are far enough. There's always something to do. Something to learn. A thing to correct. It seems endless and can sap the energy right out of playing if we aren't careful. I'll admit a feeling of partial completion at posting this. I mean, it's further than I was a month ago and it at least it felt good to be a little further along :) I'm sure my videos probably have a few experienced players gagging. 

Dianne, Melodyne is a wonderful tool. If you have a recording with only one or two small errors it can save a retake. I read between the lines that maybe you might have a partial interest in this sort of this hence why I posted it :)

Ted, Thank you man! The piano or keyboard certainly helps. I find that if I begin on a bad place or a place where I'm off a few cents there is possibility that the whole rest of the song can be off. In some songs things sound almost ok like that because all of the other notes are off by that same increment. In other songs the drift is more apparent because the fingerings don't match up that well. I have learned there are a few things I have the tendency to do, such as playing certain notes a bit too flat. If I begin on one of those it isn't a good thing.

Ted Adachi
Posted: August 14, 2019
Hi Timothy,
I don't know if you do this but as you play piano too, here is what I do.

I've been working on that Benda piece and when things don't sound right (which is like most of the time!) I play the part on the piano. Then I try to match that sound on the violin.
It's really easy on piano, not so much on the violin but it gets my ears used to how it should sound on the violin when the notes are right.

It's a good way to spot check too. Sometimes I'll hold the note and then with the bow button hit the piano key just to check and see if my note is right.

Dianne
Posted: August 14, 2019
Wow that app certainly cleaned up that playing in the example. Things just sounded 'brighter'.

Sarah Bondi
Posted: August 14, 2019
Timothy I enjoyed listening to this song.  Don't be so hard on yourself.   I know how easy that is to do.  I find my negativity leaves me when I  focus on breathing and relaxing ...especially my right arm.  I can not play this piece yet but I thank you for adding it.   I will post my playing when I  figure out how to do it!
Sarah

Timothy Smith
Posted: August 14, 2019
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Thank you for listening and the nice comments ladies. I know I still have some more practicing to do. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe I have a hearing problem or if it was the way I heard through the headphones. I knew my intonation was off some last evening. I had no idea it was that far off until today listening to it again. I can't tell you how tempted I was to use Melodyne. I could have nudged everything into tune. I'll post a video link of what I mean. I won't do that though since it would be cheating and it won't help me to learn. I seldom use it unless I have a client who wants or needs it.

Dianne, on the ornaments, if it's a quarter note I don't find it difficult because the time the ornament takes can fit in there well. OTOH if it's added as swing to a triplet on a fast piece I personally can't just throw those in there yet unless I know the tune very well. There are "pulls" where the finger just barely goes across the string enough to influence the tone. Then there are the ones that sound like a piano with two hammers on the same string. Imagine two hammers on one piano string. A main hammer and a secondary hammer. The secondary hammer actually hits first but quickly gets out of the way of the main hammer. If this didn't happen you would only hear the main hammer. At the stage I am, I need to map those ahead of time. Most good players can just throw them in where ever they want.

Much like vibrato, it's one of those things a person needs to sit down and just practice constantly in the beginning. I don't claim to be there yet :)

Barb Wimmer
Posted: August 13, 2019
Very good very musical and enjoyable to listen to. Fun song. 

Dianne
Posted: August 13, 2019
Timothy, very nice!

I've been listening to your pieces for many weeks now and it just occurred to me that I was hearing all the ornaments in this very long piece. Do those ornaments get treated as part of the note that they are attached to timing wise? In other words, which note do you shorten in order to fit the ornament in? There is no way I could play this piece with all those ornaments! I also like the special bowings.