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Elke Meier
If you get tired of Josephine Trott's exercises: I chanced upon the most beautiful double stop exercise today! Actually, I have heard this many times, but it was only today that I noticed: oh, this is actually PURE double stops! And so unbelievably beautiful! 
I am talking about the Adagio from Bach's Sonata No 5 (BWV 1018). Try it!
Elke Meier
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Posted: July 8, 2019
Last Comment: July 15, 2019
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Elke Meier
Posted: July 15, 2019
Thank you so much, Beth! This makes a lot of sense - and is a relief! The tritone between 3 and 4 just about killed me. I had hoped that the tenseness in the hand in this situation would get better in time. After all in the beginning EVERY double stop is tense and you wonder how people manage to change two fingers at once. But after a while you realize that it is possible. So, in this certain situation I had hoped that it would be a similar experience all over again. But I sure won't miss it if I don't have to develop looseness in my hand for a 3-4-tritone... 

Beth Blackerby
Posted: July 15, 2019
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Elke, I made a few changes to your copy according to how I would do it :)

Elke Meier
Posted: July 15, 2019
Yes, the second line with the mini notes is the bowline. But in this I found the bow line not too important - there is very little change :). Still I put it in because this is where I mark the up and down bows. 
The letters between the lines indicate the interval of the DS. That, together with the Kinesthetic Intonation Chart I mentioned below helps me to know where to put the fingers. 
I have no clue, what level this piece is, Maria! I just thought that it would be a nice break to all the DS pieces by Josephine Trott :). When I started working on it I noticed that it is quite a challenge for my level (Suzuki 3). But I like it so much that I still keep at it. And I think I will be able to do it, since it is so slow. There is a LOT to learn on the way...  

Maria
Posted: July 15, 2019
4am

Hi Elke,

What are those mini notes/lines at the bottom? Is that the bow line you were mentioning?

This piece is quite hard, it has 3 flats plus DS, what level is this?

Elke Meier
Posted: July 15, 2019
I just posted the bowline version I mentioned below in the Resources. However, I felt very much out of my comfort zone in preparing this. Beth, if you see this, would you please have a look at it and tell me what you think? Does it make sense? Should something like this have more shifts? I only added shifts in the places where I felt my fingers would probably break off if I didn't shift, or like when the fourth finger should cover the G and D-strings for a perfect fifth - I just could not see that poor fellow managing that! In the bowings I tried to follow Frank Peter Zimmermann, at least as far as I could see it in the video. But I am very insecure about the last few measures. Are they even doable like this?

This is such a beautiful piece! But I am realizing that it is quite a bit more challenging than these early pieces of Josephine Trott that I am normally practicing... Nevertheless I find it very rewarding to work on it. The first third I can do - but it looks to me like that is the easier part :). 

The bowings by Zimmermann need a very light and relaxed bow to be able to do the tapers and the soft but still clear beginnings of the note. That is a real good exercise as I tend to crash into the note with a very pronounced "K"-sound, especially if it is a double stop... 

Maria
Posted: July 9, 2019


Thank you much Elke for the link...


Actually I have 4, 3 copies of book 1 and 1 copy of book2...

Book1 no. 1, lost it...My teacher ordered me another copy [book copy no.2], lost it again...Teacher then ordered me 3rd copy of book 1 and a copy of book  ll...I can't find both! lol... 
Next time my teacher perhaps would suggest she will keep it! lol [must be my brain panicking and completely erased my memory where I kept these books! Brains works in mysterious ways...]

Elke Meier
Posted: July 9, 2019
I started to make a bowline version for this last night. Doing it I realized that the bowline is not so much a problem here - there is very little bow change (I like Zimmermann's bowing pattern more than the one written in the music and will try to copy his). What the real challenge is is the different intervals and to play them cleanly. So I have also marked all the intervals. That way I can look them up in the Kinesthetic Intonation Chart. Otherwise I don't think I can manage all these chromatic changes cleanly. Right now I am working on the fingering. Once that is in I will share it on the bowline page. 

The first few times I played it through veeery, very slowly without this, but soon noticed that consistency and clean playing are a challenge if I don't understand the music theory behind it and if I don't have an image in my mind of where which finger has to go when.

Dianne
Posted: July 8, 2019
Oooh I like this. Thank you.

Elke Meier
Posted: July 8, 2019
I can understand that you don't find the third M Trott book, Maria - as far as I know there are only two... And my two volumes are actually in one single book :)

Here are a few links to the Adagio:
Szeryng - I really, really like this
Grumiaux - not bad either ...

Here is a link to the sheet music: Adagio - the Adagio starts on page 33 of the PDF file.

Happy practicing :)



Maria
Posted: July 8, 2019


Any link Elke? Thank you...

Excited to see it first, DS is my nemesis...

I have 3 books of Mrs T, but can't find them!