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Kate
I had to share this because I am so excited about it.
Since my last post I've been working on my left hand - to stop myself resting the violin on the knuckle of my index finger/ release tension. I decided I need to look at my whole set up so I have had a really, really frustrating time over the last 4+ weeks - making small adjustments which then threw everything else out. Intonation and right hand had gone to pot, hitting strings (more than usual :)) as violin angle kept changing etc. I felt like I was never going to get to a stage where I felt comfortable and that everything was going backwards rapidly.
Things were a bit better with my left hand - wasn't stuck to the neck anymore - but my chin rest looked like this:
and I still had to keep adjusting the shoulder rest every few days so I don't think I had a single positive practice the whole time. So I decided to try the Wave - bit of a big decision because being in the UK it works out around £100 (with postage, customs/ handling fees and returning the unwanted ones). Well they came today and I can't believe how amazing it feels. The wave 1, 1.25 is absolutely perfect - no tension, my head feels as if it can move around, no chin clamping (didn't realise I was clamping with my chin until today) and an added bonus is the clamp is not uncomfortable on my collar bone. Feeling happy again & worth every penny! :)

Kate
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Posted: June 8, 2019
Last Comment: June 11, 2019
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Barbara Habel
Posted: June 11, 2019
Dear Kate

Off topic. I too started eating plant based limited oil. In last September. Love John McDougall.

I noticed that my fingers, especially on the G string, are so much more nimble and agile. What a pleasant side effect. Are you drinking enough water to wash out the joints?

Kate
Posted: June 10, 2019

Thank you, yes Beth – it is fantastic :)

Sonia – the site/ videos are great for working out height etc. I saw they will do video consultations too if need more help - such a good idea. I too have thumb problems which started well before violin. I thought might be arthritis or repetitive strain from drawing so much but I started eating plant based/ limiting oil 2 years ago and it went away – until recently when playing. It's like an ache around the base joint near the wrist and in my case seems to be related to to pressure. My left thumb is definitely when I press on neck of violin or have it in the wrong place - actually, quite useful to make sure I don't. The right hand has been a bit trickier to work out but I'm pretty sure it's because I'm pressing upward on thumb when bowing 'firmly'. Currently trying to make sure I let the index finger do the work. I have a feeling there will always be something that needs working on in terms of hold/ set up and for every problem there will be many possible causes - so I better get used to being really patient about problem solving. 

Mandy, I'd give it a go. They are really good about returns etc. and trying a few is helpful. The constant adjusting is something I did without realising until the last few days – or at least I didn't realise how often I did it. In fact, I think it's become a bit ingrained as every couple of minutes I still automatically go to adjust and then see I don't need to as everything is really secure. I have found out so many things about my posture, body etc. since playing the violin – like the end of my jaw on the left (chin rest side) is much more pointy than the right side and doesn't like anything pressing on it :D



Mandy Notley
Posted: June 10, 2019
Hi Kate,

This is great news. Thanks for sharing. 

I may have to try one.

 I am a lot better with the Kreddle chin rest, but I am still not feeling comfortable in my set up as I am constantly adjusting it trying to get more comfortable when playing. The height is great but I ma not sure its the right shape for my comfort.

Mandy.

Sonia Lancaster
Posted: June 10, 2019
Hi Kate,
Great to hear you are finding progress with your set up. I too use a Wave and love it, so comfortable. I found the website/ YouTube videos very useful for the height and design selection. It was great to be  able to try them out as well. I was stuck between the highest and next highest designs, but couldn’t close my violin case with the highest. I used to use a Bon Musica shoulder rest, but due to where the arc of the rest falls, I felt it was impinging on my left shoulder joint and causing pain so I swapped to a Kun, which for the moment works.

I currently have another issue - sore right lower thumb joint. I don’t know whether it’s occupation, violin or just age related and am wearing a brace which helps a little. I hope it clears up soon.

Good luck with your playing and new setup.

Sonia

Beth Blackerby
Posted: June 9, 2019
That's fantastic, Kate! I too have a Wave (custom shaped to my specifications) and love it. I wonder how I ever did without it. I'm so glad you connected the loss of control with shifting and intonation with set up. The security of my violin has the greatest impact above all else with regard to the level of my playing. 

Kate
Posted: June 9, 2019
Barb, thank you - and congratulations to you! Feels great doesn't it :)

Kate
Posted: June 9, 2019

Lesley, I would definitely recommend trying it. I started by taking off my shoulder rest, balancing violin on collar bone and then building up my chin rest with shoe heel gel pads until it felt right and the measured the height. The wave site tells you how to work out what height wave would be best and both sets of measurements suggested the 1.25 would be the best so I ordered that (style 1 & 2) and had the 1.5 also sent. Knew immediately the wave 2 wasn't the right profile for me.

I also noticed when balancing chin rest on collarbone that I have very little gap between shoulder and violin. I really hated the bon musica – felt like I was in a straight jacket, and couldn't get it low enough on the shoulder. Both the mach 1 and viva la musica diamond work for me – with the shoulder side screwed down as far as it will go. I prefer the viva as I can't feel it at all on my shoulder. It's the weirdest feeling – just there, stable with the chin kind of balancing it all. I thought I was reasonably relaxed before - I wasn't! Yesterday I was playing through a piece and every so often felt something was missing – realised it was that I wasn't having to adjust my hold! I'm just hoping over the next few days it continues to feel as good, all seems a bit too good to be true at the moment :).



Lesley
Posted: June 8, 2019
OMG! Maybe this is what I need to do too. Kate, I have been going through literally everything you describe -- clamping, tension, index finger knuckle and all the frustration with realizing your current setup isn't right, but not knowing quite how to fix it. In my case I was (am) also having a lot of shoulder pain. I tried a Bon Musica shoulder rest but promptly hated it and sent it back. Was just starting to think that it might be more chin (and not shoulder) rest related when I read your post. The "after" scenario you describe sounds like bliss!

Barbara Habel
Posted: June 8, 2019
Dear Kate

Congratulation to having made a "happy" choice.

It looks "a real beauty" and you can tuck the overlapping part well under your chin.

I recently bought myself a new chinrest too so I can relate to the euphoria of having found something special in one´s set up.

Hope you adjust to the new set up quickly and can make quick progress with your playing.