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Beth kindly correct me if Iím wrong. To me, there is a difference in time-value when playing embellishment notes than when playing slurred notes, even when in both cases and due to the legato on top of them, should be in only one bow stroke.

It is my understanding that:

The embellishment notes take their time from the main note that carry them; in another words, you must deduct from the time-value of the main note in order to play the grace(s), mordent, the turn or any others in the group of embellishment notes.

Contrary to;

The slurred notes played also with only one bow stroke but long enough equal in time-value, to the sum of all the notes within the slur.

Is the above correct? Please advice.


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Posted: August 29, 2011
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Posted: August 29, 2011

Thanks Simon and Beth.

I appreciate it.


Beth Blackerby
Posted: August 29, 2011
Well stated Simon. I couldn't have responded better myself.

Also Tricia, another clue is whether or not the grace note has a "slash" mark through the stem. If it does, then it is an acciaccature, and if it doesn't, then it is an appagiatura. Or in the biz, we just say "before the beat" or "on the beat".

Posted: August 29, 2011
I hope I've understood your question well enough to attempt an answer!

Are you referring to the difference between the appoggiature and the acciaccatura?
I think the appoggiature fits your second definition where the time if effectively divided equally between all the notes in the group, whereas the acciaccatura is a very short note 'squeezed' in front of the main note and takes very little time away from it.

It can also be a matter of style - depending on the type of music, or the century it was written in, the interpretation can be different (for example in early music, a trill should start on the note above the written note, and in later music it starts on the printed note itself.)

Regular slurred notes (ie a 'normal' grouping of notes WITHOUT an indication of grace notes, turns or mordents) should be played in a bow stroke as is written on the page - ie not making the values of the notes different in performance than as they are printed.

I hope this doesn't confuse further!?