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Urban Kristan
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So I've started concentrating more on intonation with drones and sometimes intonia to verify that I'm hearing correctly. I'd like to make sure that I'm not doing anything too wrong with the left hand. Any tips? 
Urban Kristan
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Posted: March 10, 2017
Last Comment: March 12, 2017
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Posted: March 12, 2017
Appreciated Beth's video.  That's something I'm needing to keep watching/remembering (on ascending patterns holding finger down until AFTER the next note is being played).  

Urban, great job!

Urban Kristan
Posted: March 12, 2017
@Nick 
Wow, those fingers are amazingly static (for lack of a better word)! I'll strive towards that. Thanks for the video!

@Beth
Thanks for the video! Hm, I hadn't even considered that... it was an unconscious effort. Now that you mention it, the way you describe is much less stressful. 

Beth Blackerby
Posted: March 12, 2017
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Hi Urban, I think your intonation is coming along very well! However, the biggest issue I see is the the technique where the old finger doesn't lift until AFTER the new finger is placed in an ascending pattern. Likewise, in a descending pattern, the new finger has to anticipate dropping before the old finger lifts. I see a little bit of the "simultaneous dropping and lifting of fingers".These concept are very important for clarity of tone.  I recently made this response video for someone (who has since deleted their video) that applies directly to you. Also, be sure to watch videos #157-158. I go into more detail about this technique. I regret not putting these videos earlier in the sequence. 

Nick
Posted: March 11, 2017
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Urban, this is the video.


Urban Kristan
Posted: March 11, 2017
@Dianne
Thanks Dianne! Yes, I think I need to get into the habit of relaxing the elbow more. 
And yeah, that's exactly the video I needed! Perfect :) 

@Jane
That's what I'll be doing! :) Those tones happen to also be very important in the minuets.


Dianne
Posted: March 11, 2017
Hi Urban, This is really good. Bravo on your scale work. When you played on the lower strings, your hand frame looked very nice. Without seeing your whole arm, I couldn't tell if you held your elbow stationary under the violin. If so, try letting the elbow hang loosely under the violin so that it has a bit of movement if it needs to as you change string planes. I really think the video that would benefit you the most right now is the left hand squeezing/scrunching video. You may not be squeezing, but the video contains how to navigate putting fingers down on the E string, and I think you'll find it will hep you tremendously in a short period of time. Good luck!




Posted: March 11, 2017
Here's how I practice intonation: Try playing G on D string, D on A string, etc. When the the notes are perfectly in tune, you can here the string to the left ringing. If you do not here the string on the left ringing, adjust your finger a bit.

Urban Kristan
Posted: March 11, 2017
@Diane in SOCAL
Yeah, I had a feeling my hand might might have been moving a bit too much/incorrectly. I'll go back to the videos on left hand position to reiterate some of that. Will protect those strings from the rain. :) 

@Nick
I looked through 30 pages, but I couldn't find your video :/ Do you perhaps have a YouTube link? I presume it's unlisted? 

@MsPolkadotz
Yeah, if I think about all the ways to hit the wrong note, it seems almost a miracle to hit it precisely. I'll try some double stops to train the ear. 

Shifting is still a mystery to me, sounds like a good way to start 'sowing the seeds', as Beth says. :) 





Posted: March 11, 2017
Hi…One suggestion I would make is to keep the left hand fingers hovering over the fingerboard…this will allow for fast finger movement in the future. It appears from the video that you are pulling your whole left hand away from the fingerboard and neck when you play a note.  You might want to revisit some of Beth's videos on left hand practice.  Also, it helps that your left elbow is able to swing beneath the violin…this will free up your left hand for changes to the G string and to the E string…so check and feel that freedom with your left hand in playing position…being able to move and the fingers up and over the fingerboard.  I teach kids and I tell them to make an umbrella with their fingers over the fingerboard…so the strings are protected from the rain! : >)
Your violin sounds nice BTW.  
Stay tuned. Diane in SoCal

Nick
Posted: March 10, 2017
Good advice from MPD on intonation. The only thing i would like to mention is your hand frame (first line of hand knuckles) coming away from the fingerboard when playing. Try to keep a consistent a hand frame as possible. See the video I posted on Desiree Singleton's thread...

MsPolkadotz
Posted: March 10, 2017
Hi Urban, try doing double stops with the open G string and the third finger on the d string (G) and hear how your violin rings as you make small adjustment on your third finger. Try doing it without looking at tuner/apps and really hear the ringing quality of the G string. Similarly, you can do this with the next strings down for the notes D and A. When you're ready you could try matching the fourth finger on G string with the open A and go down again.

you could also try finding octaves for the open strings with different fingerings in higher positions and play it like a game to test your ear. This could be a good way to start shifting too .. if you press down and slide along the fingerboard to find the octave above you'll hear the approach to the note and know when you're close.. It's a little bit like a target practice. It's hard to explain in words but I hope this make sense somehow  =)