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 I’m loving experimenting with the new bow-off-string staccatos that Beth’s video teaches on this piece!  Continuing concentration to correct sloppy string crossing and skating bow habits formed in the past.   This forum is my teacher so I am especially thankful for critique on areas to improve.  Happy day to everyone!


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Posted: February 5, 2017
Last Comment: February 9, 2017
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Posted: February 9, 2017
Diane, thank you for the additional shoulder/chin rest info, very helpful.  I'll be putting that to good use tomorrow when stopping by my local violin shop to try out new possibilities on my setup.


Posted: February 9, 2017

Thank you, Beth!  My my, that finger motion does feel awkward starting out.  I’ve just now watched several of your finger motion videos, will start including the #81 Daily Bow Hand Exercises in my daily practice as well as practicing tiny colle strokes on this Hunters Chorus.  And thanks for the pointer about bringing left hand knuckles higher to help counteract squeezing tendencies.  Got my practice goals set for the week.  Thank you for all you do in creating/maintain this site, it’s a wonderful encouragement and resource!


Beth Blackerby
Posted: February 8, 2017
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Posted: February 8, 2017
Setup is so important in playing.
Hi Ann…Yes, a trip to the violin shop is a great idea.  Bring your current shoulder rest with you. Ask the shop to put on a taller chin rest first before you make any other adjustments. I noticed that you naturally hold with your chin/jaw your violin directly over the tail piece. Some player rest the chin/jaw more to the left of the chin rest and some just naturally hold with the jaw over the tailpiece.  View your video and you will see what I'm referring to. : >) So, as a suggestion, ask the violin shop for a center-mounted, taller chin rest like the two I mentioned in my first email response. Then, I would also suggest you try a different shoulder rest with this new tall chin rest setup. Not everyone is comfortable with the BonMusica shoulder rest because for some body shapes it just is not a good fit.  Bringing two different setup issues to the shop and asking for their expert help…might give you the most comfortable chin/shoulder rest setup.  Also, ask the shop if you can return them in a few days after going home with them for practice.  Always know that what feels good in short period trial practice in a shop might be very different when you home and practicing in your own space and have a better time to evaluate the whole setup.  Most shops want you as a happy  customer and will allow you to bring it back for a trade in for something else..so it's always a good idea to ask about that policy.  I know of many players who have a "box full" of different chin and shoulder rests because they might not of have the opportunity to "try out" them for a few days to see just how comfortable they where.  Good luck and let us know how you came out on this very important aspect of comfort while playing.  : >)
Stay tuned. Diane 

Elke Meier
Posted: February 8, 2017
Another little tip for shoulder rest and chin rest adjustment: Check out the website of the Violinist in Balance project. To read the participants stories and see their results really was an eye opener to me and freed me up to start experimenting with my own setup.


Posted: February 7, 2017
Thank you, Diane and Elke!  I'll see if I can test some models at my local violin shop later this week and if that doesn't work then order one of the ones you've mentioned.  Oh to have a comfortable neck/shoulder, won't that be nice!

Elke Meier
Posted: February 7, 2017
Ann, SAS chinrests come in various heights.


Posted: February 7, 2017
Taller Chin Rests.
Hi Ann…yes, a taller chin rest might solve the problem but it could also be the shoulder rest that your using…it might not be fitting your body frame as well as it should.  I would recommend getting a center-mounted chin rest…one that clamps over the end pin and your jaw (it think these should be called a jaw rest…not a chin rest..: >).  There are several models that might be beneficial to you and your longer neck.  The styles of chin rests that might be great for you are:  Berber (AKA, Ohrenform model), these are taller than the one you have currently on your violin.  The one we use here at our shop in SoCal a lot is the: Flat Flesch, this too mounts over the endpin and will serve to raise your head up to fill in the space between your upper chest ribs and your chin. Either of these two models are excellent and put you in a better posture.   You head should be situated over your spine. Both of these can be found on Amazon or maybe your local violin shop in your city. I would go with a taller chin rest first and see if that helps before switching out the shoulder rest your currently using. One thing we have found here at our shop is that this shoulder rest you have tends to lean the violin more to the right and it also keeps the violin more on a slope instead of being flatter on your shoulder.   Hope that helps. Getting your setup correct will help to reduce tensions in the neck, shoulders and arms.  Enjoyed your playing. : >)
Stay tuned. Diane 


Posted: February 6, 2017
Barbara, thank you, that's so encouraging to hear, you made my day!

Diane, oh that is interesting that you mention about that.  I'm using the bonmusica shoulder rest and have it adjusted all the way to the top.  I've been feeling like I would want it to be higher but had kindof talked myself into thinking it was just something I needed to get used to.  But now that you say this, hnmmmm!  I'm not sure how I could get it any higher? I'll look into the "taller centered chin rest" that you mentioned, sounds like that could help.  It just floors me how some people play with small or even no should rest, I guess I hadn't realized in my pre-violin days that I had such a long neck-:>.


Posted: February 6, 2017
Greetings Ann…what a fun piece to play.
Hello.  I did not do Suzuki method except for the first 5 songs in the book…this is a fun piece and nicely played.  
I would like to make a comment regarding your head position with the violin.  I'm thinking that your shoulder rest on the treble (E side) needs to be raised so that your head is not tilted to the right so much.  Are you feeling a lot of tension in the left side of your neck and shoulder?  You might want to raise the foot of the shoulder by maybe a 1/2-3/4 inch to see if you can hold your head up straight.  Take a look at any of Beth's videos and see how her head is up and over her spine…so that when your standing up with good posture your head is aligned over your shoulders and not tilted to the right so much. You might want to consider a taller centered chin rest to help with this as well as raising just the one foot, the one that rests on the upper chest.  Yes, congratulations  on playing a nice tune…great intonation too. : >
Stay tuned. Diane in SoCal

Barbara Habel
Posted: February 6, 2017
Wonderful playing. No mistake in fingering. Nice rhythm and straight bowings. You are doing well. And all played by ear. Well done.