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Ayoub
Hello dear Violinists, 

I have a problem that i'm trying to work on, i noticed recently ( for example ) when i play an open E string than i play a third finger on the A string (D note) i noticed that the finger drops and i want to isolate this problem and fix it 

any suggestions or exercises ?
:) 
Thank you 
Ayoub
9 Responses
Posted: May 15, 2016
Last Comment: May 18, 2016
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Ayoub
Posted: May 18, 2016
Thank you dear members for your help :) 
Much appreciated 

Ayoub
Posted: May 18, 2016
Thank you Beth for the video response & your advice's, will do my best to maintain the position of the hand

Beth Blackerby
Posted: May 16, 2016
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Ying
Posted: May 16, 2016
Always try to avoid unnecessary string crossings, especially when playing fast. Schradieck is great for training the pinky.

Elke Meier
Posted: May 16, 2016
For me it is Laurie Scott's walking fingers that Rustam mentioned plus Schradieck and Sevcik (Red Desert Violin has a video how to practice with it) which help with this problem of keeping a consistent hand frame. But if it is a comfort for you: you are not alone with it :).

Diane in SOCAL
Posted: May 15, 2016
Use your pinky…4th finger to play the E note.

Hi….here is a suggestion for you.  Instead of crossing the string and loosing your place with the third finger on the A string…reach up with your pinky and play the 4th finger E note on the A string!  If you look at the first and second measures you will notice that those two measures are on the A string…so using your 4th finger to play E on the A string will keep your nice hand frame and you won't have to cross over to play the E string because your coming right back to the A string for D (third finger), C# for second finger and B for first finger.  So it might be a bit of a challenge but with some practice you will be able to do it.  Here's an exercise:  play the D note on A and then play the 4th finger E…keep the hand frame and stretch the 4th finger and round it at the joints. If you flatten the pinky then tension will set in and you will not get a good sounding E with the 4th finger.  Practice slowly going from D to E with the correct fingers and I bet you can do it.  It just take some practice and strengthening the 4th finger…it will sound better to as there will be not interruption from D to E on the A string.  Have fun.
Stay tuned. Diane in SoCal

Rustam Gill
Posted: May 15, 2016
Hi Ayoub,
It sounds like your issue is keeping a consistent hand position and intonation when changing strings. A while ago, somebody on VL recommended this exercise to me that might help you too:
http://violinlab.com/videoLibrary/lesson.php?id=164

I'll also add something that my teacher taught me when I first started taking lessons with him:
Think of your left arm from your elbow all the way up to the hand as one unit, so that when you change strings, you don't move from your wrist but rather swing your elbow a little bit either towards your body, (to your right) when crossing to a lower string, or away from your body (to your left), when crossing to a higher string. This is a very slight movement, so don't exaggerate it as that would be uncomfortable for your shoulder. By doing this, your hand shape will stay more consistent across the strings, as will your intonation.
Good luck!

Ayoub
Posted: May 15, 2016

Thank you for the response, i just read my post again and i noticed that it wasn't clear,
so i'll explain,
for example at the end of the first measure i play the open E string twice and when i reach the The D note on the A string, my third finger loses its correct position and i lose the intonation,

p.s i noticed this problem when i play very fast pieces and this one is a simplified version of Beethoven's ( Ode to joy ) and it's in 130-140 bpm

so is there any exercises to correct this issue ?



Diane in SOCAL
Posted: May 15, 2016
Can you post a video of your problem?

Hi…I would suggest a video or a picture of the problem.  Do you mean that the finger joint is collapsing at the first or second joint?