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Lynne de Velazquez
hi Beth!  And everybody!  First off -- the Video Lesson Library is amazing! I have had 8 violin teachers -- some of who were/are very well known -- and none of them gave me the tools that have been captured on this website -- and I thank you!  Can't wait to come to Austin for a private lesson!  That being said -- Let me get onto what I need help with -- I am currently struggling with Seitz concerto #5 1st mvt.  The frustrating thing is that this piece looks like it should be easy!  But I can attest that (at least for me) it is not.
The 1/16th notes are so darned fast!  And at this point I am of the mind that the issue holding me back does not lie with my left hand -- but rather with my bow arm.  Any suggestions?
Lynne de Velazquez
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Posted: May 14, 2012
Last Comment: May 20, 2012
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Eileen
Posted: May 20, 2012
interesting phenome just now....

I'm sitting in front of the computer watching your recent video for this piece and taking in the lesson....mute's on the violin because it's 7pm and my husband and his mom are in the other room watching a Jimmy Stewart movie...sooo..... trying to be very quiet....

I'm going over that fast section at the end...oh so quietly...keeping in mind what I've gleaned from your directions thus far.....and...oh my goodness...I'm hitting those notes and bouncing that bow like a pro...lol...well, maybe not THAT good, but certainly better than I have thus far.   Now I can't wait to try it tomorrow morning when I can take this mute off and see what I sound like without it.

I'm thinking that there are a couple of factors that are helping me out just now.....#1-I'm very relaxed because I'm just tooling around since I can't really give it my all right now...and #2-I'm sitting down, which I almost never do when playing or practicing because my back gets to aching when I do for very long.....and...#3- where I'm sitting I'm pretty much forced to have my arm bent at that right angle with no room to straighten it out because the keyboard is right there.......hhmmmm.....

Beth Blackerby
Posted: May 19, 2012
Yes, you're right, Eileen. They should be spiccato…too slow for sutillé.

Eileen
Posted: May 18, 2012
Beth, question....

In the Seitz #5, 1st mov.......the triplets in measures 30-33.....would those be more of a spiccato than a sautille....or does it really matter all that much ?    <:-\

Eileen
Posted: May 18, 2012
  Thanks Beth !   :-)

Beth Blackerby
Posted: May 18, 2012
Sorry about the audio, everyone. The mic was a little too close. I'll get it right some day!!!

Beth Blackerby
Posted: May 18, 2012
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Beth Blackerby
Posted: May 15, 2012
Lynne, come on down, we'd love to have you! Someone just canceled, so there's a spot open for you if you want it. Email me for details.

Lynne de Velazquez
Posted: May 15, 2012
Eileen!  The same measures where you're having difficulty, is exactly where I'm having trouble! 80 and 91.  I look forward to Beth's video!!!  :-)

Eileen
Posted: May 15, 2012
Hi Lynne,  The bowing for that section isn't "way" up at the tip.....but about a 3rd of the way down from the tip.  More a bit past the middle of the bow up toward the tip...but not all the way.  When you play those notes to speed....the momentum of the bow sort of makes those accents..(the dotted notes)...all by itself. 

I'm looking forward to Beth's video. I'm sure she'll explain it much better and even correct the little I've tried to explain !   x-)

Lynne de Velazquez
Posted: May 15, 2012
Yes, Ray!  "The Sorcerer's Apprentice!"  it WAS a timeless classic!  :-)

Ray
Posted: May 15, 2012
Lynne, the way you have described borrowing an experienced violinist's fingers reminds me of one of my favorite movies: "Fantasia"  it came out in around 1948-9 and Mickey Mouse is the apprentice to an experienced wizard.  Mickey needs to clean the workshop and 'borrows' the wizard's wand.  Terrific scene and of course every thing possible goes wrong.  Great movie and FANTASTIC music.  It was ahead of it's time in animation and it was in colour.  Ray

Diane Gravllin
Posted: May 15, 2012
Lynne...are you anywhere near Lubbock, Texas?  If you are, here is a wonderful violin teacher in that area.  Connie Sunday,  BestStudentViolins.com  888.823.3675. She's a friend of mine and a wonderful teacher for beginners through advanced, bother children and adults.
Diane in SoCal

Lynne de Velazquez
Posted: May 15, 2012
Thanks for the bowing tip!  I'm going to see if that helps! I would love to come down to the workshop -- but alas, looks like it's full! If a slot opens up, please let me know -- I'm only about a 4 hour drive up I35!  :-)

I find that my left hand has to have a very fine balance between "relaxation" and *effort* -- otherwise I cannot maintain control without gripping -- if that makes sense.
Playing quickly; my fingers tend to run away by themselves, as if they belong to an experienced soloist who has only loaned them to an apprentice that hasn't fully leaned what to do with them yet!   Likewise with bowing -- playing the 1/16th notes, my bow gets wild and I start hitting other strings.  I will try using the tip of the bow.  It may just be that simple -- thanks so much for the suggestion -- can't wait to practice!    :-)

Beth Blackerby
Posted: May 15, 2012
Yes, Karen

KarenJ
Posted: May 15, 2012

Is that from Suzuki book 4?


Beth Blackerby
Posted: May 15, 2012
Thank you, ladies. Seitz it is!! If there's time this week, I'll throw it on the "to do" pile.

Eileen
Posted: May 15, 2012

Welcome to Vlab Lynne !   Are you coming to the workshop in July ?   I've been working on that piece for a while and...."right".... it's not as easy as it looks.    My problem with it I think has more to do with my left hand...not moving fast enough to catch all those notes in the last section...especially the beginning of meas 80 and end of meas 82.  My fingers get all tied up in knots and don't want to move fast enough.   Meas 90 and 91 are a "bear" !  As far as bowing, For those 16ths I bow them on the last third of my bow, toward the tip.  They really do move too fast to try and play them more toward the frog.

I'll be looking for Beth's response to you question as well.  I'm bringing this piece down to Austin with me for the July workshop.  I expect to get some excellent advice and needed corrections !   :-)