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Eileen
I sent Beth an old Irish tune in 3 part harmony that I thought might be fun for folks at the workshop to fiddle around with during the downtime (if there will be any..haha)...or even a lesson in keeping rhythm/timing when playing with others.

She posted it in the Member's page in the resource section.  It's called Wild Rose of the Mountain.  A very pretty little tune that I hope I'll be able to sit in and play along with you guys in July !   ;-)
Eileen
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Posted: March 4, 2012
Last Comment: March 10, 2012
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Eileen
Posted: March 10, 2012
Lol....I think Beth's idea is to house the fellas in one and the ladies in the other.  We could all bring a set of earplugs.   I'm rather hard of hearing so I don't think I'll be bothered over much by any late evening playing.  

If you look at the houses on the workshop page....one of them has a couple bedrooms off  to the back and the other has a rather nice porch/deck off one end of the house.   I think if those who generally retire early take the back bedrooms away from the main area....should work ok.....and I sort of like the idea of whittling away on my fiddle outside on the porch..haha..provided the neighbors aren't kept awake.  

Oh, I think we'll figure something out ....who knows, Beth may keep us so busy that our minds and bodies may not be up to late nights !  Lol !

I don't know what this week will look like, I just know that I'm going to thoroughly enjoy and get the most out of it that I can......and try not to annoy anyone in the process !  :-)


Posted: March 9, 2012
Eileen...hello back.  Maybe we should ask Beth to assign the nite jammer's to one house so  those who want to stay up and play can and those that want to sleep early; assigned to the  other house. Beth, can you weigh in on this? I go to Ashokan Fiddle and Dance (Jay Ungar's camp) in upstate NY in August...we have two dorms...the noisy one and the other is the quiet dorm after 10PM.  Looking forward to July. Stay tuned. Diane in SoCal

Eileen
Posted: March 9, 2012
Hi Diane, I look forward to meeting you and your friend Mary.   I think a thread where those who are going can get acquainted is a great idea !   Just a place to flap about the event without taking up a lot of space here.

I look forward to some evening jam sessions.  That's something I've not had much opportunity to do and I think it would be fun.  We will have to be kind to those who may not be such night owls though !  lol      Maybe we should warn the neighbors ?




Posted: March 9, 2012
Hi Eileen and others who are coming to the workshop.  I am coming with a friend, Mary and the both of us will be in one of the community houses. We are coming from San Diego.   Both of us are violinist/fiddlers and this is going to be so much fun to be able to meet Beth, the other teachers...Todd  (Professor V, OMG one of my hero's) and others who hang out on Violinlab.  I will also bring sheet music (in the public domain) to share and YES, we can have some jams late at night if no one is trying to sleep. : >)!  Maybe Beth could set up a workshop thread to post to where we can all introduce ourselves.  Thanks Eileen for the tune and yes, who ever can post the three part harmony...that would be super.  THANKS.
Stay tuned. Diane in SoCal

Eileen
Posted: March 7, 2012
I expect some very late nights for us down there.....good thing Beth rented the houses because the walls aren't thick enough in those hotel rooms...haha

Jim Gross
Posted: March 6, 2012
Thanks Robyn for your very thorough answer.  I had thought that grace notes always occurred at the beginning of the note, and not suffixed like that.  I have a lot to learn and I appreciate the help from both you and Eileen.  I like the idea of something to do 'in the off time', and I hope to put this together.  While I am practicing at the beginning of Suzuki, 'in the off time', I play what ever I can, just to doodle.  It's fun!


Posted: March 6, 2012
Robyn, I've been to fiddle camps where all levels play together.  What I've seen is:
less experienced players = melody part (violin 1) led by a few strong players
more experienced players = harmony parts




Posted: March 6, 2012
I tried playing Wild Rose of the Mountain Violin 1 and Violin 2 using some looping software that I have.  Basically, the software gives me a count in, then I play 16 bars which the looper records and immediately starts playing back.  On the playback, I come in with Violin 2 and try to harmonize with the me of 30 seconds ago. All the while, the looper is recording the 2nd pass while playing the 1st pass. Probably about the closest you can come to a live real time situation with software.  I finish, play the whole thing back and once again, I am humbled.  I don't know if it's the me of 30 seconds ago or the present me but one of us (or both) needs a lot more practice.  Both intonation and timing issues become readily apparent with harmony.  I also find that if I get off track playing the harmony, it's really hard to recover.  I think it might be a while before I'm ready for harmony with a real live person.


Posted: March 6, 2012
I have a lot of sheet music, some easy, some not so easy;some traditional fiddle tunes; some are solos some are 2-3 part I can bring to the workshop.  How 'bout some Mariachi stuff?  I bet though, that we will be so busy we will not have time to kick over the traces and go huntin' on our own.  I envision some "assignments" from Beth that we will be working on if we have any free time.  Anyway I can bring some of it if it is desired.


Posted: March 6, 2012
OK, good deal.

Eileen
Posted: March 6, 2012
Hi Pecos, sorry about that !

Not sure.....just play it in whatever tempo feels comfortable for you..  It's a slowish pleasant sort of tune...feel free to experiment and play it the way you think best.   :-)


Posted: March 6, 2012
Eileen:
What tempo for this piece please??

Eileen
Posted: March 6, 2012
Hi Jim, those are "grace" notes....and they are optional.  :-)

Jim Gross
Posted: March 6, 2012
Taking a closer look at this piece, I see some ornamental notes slurred in with a half note starting at four measures past the repeat and a few other places.  Do you know what this is called?  It looks like two sixteenth notes attached to the half note.  Would that be counted as a dotted quarter note with two sixteenth notes?  Sort of looks like what I have understood as a turn, but not.  Is it an option?

Eileen
Posted: March 5, 2012
BTW.....I WILL get to sit in on this with you guys in Austin !    :-)

Eileen
Posted: March 5, 2012
Wow....David, that's cool !   Sounds like a carousel tune !

I must have made it to the "old foggie" stage of life....because I just don't "get" all this new techy stuff that's out there these days.   I have become my grandma !  x-o


Posted: March 5, 2012
Just to get an idea of how the harmony sounds, I put part of this in MuseScore (which is free), played the result, saved it, and uploaded it to SoundCloud.  The nice thing about MuseScore is that you can mute the parts that you want to and play along with it at practice time.  The muting also help you hear what your part sounds like, it's good to hear it a few times through before playing it. Also the composition can be saved and shared.  If there's any interest, I'll complete the tune in MuseScore format and share it.
Here's what the three part harmony sounds like (assuming that there are no transcription errors).
http://soundcloud.com/j-david-macdonald/wild-rose-of-the-mountain

Eileen. Nice tune, you know how to pick 'em!.
Dave


Jim Gross
Posted: March 5, 2012
I think this will be fun at the workshop.  While I'm just a beginner, I think I can get violin 3.  I'll work on all parts, this looks like fun...


Posted: March 5, 2012
what tempo?

Eileen
Posted: March 4, 2012
I.. ah....color code my music to keep me in the right spot.   Too many lines on this one and I kept mixing them up..lol.   I still do, even with the colors  !