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Jim Gross
I have a question That is bothering me at this time.  It refers to the fact that I am rather tall, and long in the arm.  To make the characteristic box when bowing, in order for my forearm to be parallel with the strings, I end up with only about six inches of bow to the tip.  This makes it an awfully long way to the frog, consequently I am not using all the bow.  Your thoughts?
Jim Gross
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Posted: February 20, 2012
Last Comment: February 21, 2012
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Eileen
Posted: February 21, 2012
It's good to discover these adjustments at an early stage Jim !  I imagine you'll manage it quite well once you discover the benefits !  :-)

Jim Gross
Posted: February 21, 2012
O.K., Thank you all for your feed back.  I have ordered a Flesch center chin rest (no hump), and have adjusted my shoulder rest to bring my violin around to the left.  And, yes Andreas, bringing the violin around to the left brings the bow to the center when the arm is squared.  Now, I am going to have to get used to this new position, but I expect it to be a smooth and relatively painless adjustment. I don't think it will take long, especially since I am so new to all of this.  I am gathering all the tools necessary to put a video up soon...


Posted: February 21, 2012
Same issues here Jim, but like Beth said bringing the violin more to left side of the body worked perfectly for me :)


Posted: February 20, 2012
From one tall and long armed bird to another....never clip your wings...relax and fly...the technique you need will follow. Ditto to all that Bob said too.

Beth Blackerby
Posted: February 20, 2012
So Jim, Bob, Guillaume, and other tall people of the website, when I say "middle of the bow" in videos, I am more precisely referring to the place in the bow where you're arm makes the square, which for you all is close to the tip.

Beth Blackerby
Posted: February 20, 2012
Timely question, Jim. Guillaume (VL) member, who lives here in Austin came for a lesson yesterday, and he too is quite tall (my tallest student to date). I really saw  how "middle of the bow" is a relative term.  When his arm was at square, there were only inches left to the tip. The mechanics of the detaché motion work best when the elbow is opening from the square and closing to the square, particularly with those fast middle of the bow strokes. THe problem for you and other long armed types, is getting comfortable playing at the frog. You're arm must fold up like a bird's wing to shrink in size enough to have a straight bow at the frog. Guillaume accommodates this by holding the violin far over to the left of his body and using a center mounted chin rest. I'll see if he'll let me take a picture or video to post for you to see his set up.

Jim Gross
Posted: February 20, 2012
thanks Bob


Posted: February 20, 2012
The interview I referred to is with Dr. Glen Leupnitz. Bob


Posted: February 20, 2012
Jim, This is not a technical answer to your question, but I am 6'7" with a 38" sleeve length. I've been working with my fiddle for about a year and a half. I don't experience the problem you describe. My suggestion is that we have to work with what we have and not allow the picture perfect bowing technique to get in our way. Time with the instrument will dictate the proper technique. My observation is that there are small variations which are reflected in each individual's technique and time and practice will dictate how we find the voice of our instrument. If you haven't done so, you might get something out of Beth's interview about picking up the instrument at our mature stage. I think it is pertinent. Bob