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Dianne
Reading about the recent recordings of older instruments at the Cremona Violin Museum with a digital recording company in Germany, and after listening to various digital recording library samples, I just don't think it sounds like the real thing. I just don't think digital recording can ever be as good as an analog one. It can get close, but it just doesn't sound 100% there. But it can be digitally stored and moved around, so there are some advantages. Wish I could hear an analog recording of these fine older instruments on analog amplifiers. I had some at one time and the experience of that music was by far superior. Then I sold it all and went digital and I miss the quality of sound.
Dianne
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Posted: June 29, 2019
Last Comment: July 1, 2019
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Dianne
Posted: July 1, 2019
Michael thank you for the feedback, please keep it coming! I really am just guessing with all this and it is just my evolving opinion on what is happening the industry. I am a real photography fan and am constantly amazed by the refinements. It's really funny, but old analog cameras are a hot seller right now in the photography world because a digital camera can't give all the nuance that an analog one can. Fuji I think has a problem right now where people are attemtping to conterfeit the film. You can get really, really close in digital but digital can't 100% replicate natural waveforms, whether they be light or sound. So maybe a purist view. I use a digital camera too, but miss my Olympus gear. I used to photgraph for a campus newspaper, one on one- close up follow your around for the day and sports photography. I miss the things I used to be able to capture- they were absolutely tangibly stunning. I think that no matter how many times you sample a waveform, it's just that- a sample- not the waveform itlsef. Really appreciae your feedback on this, because what's happenng in the plugin world just sounds uninspiring to me as compared to what I am used to hearing. The museum BTW has ongoing live performances almost daily of the instruments under dicussion. Lucky those who can go and hear these for a modest entrance fee.

Timothy I really appreciate your feedback and links. THank you so much. That you use these is fascinating and anything else you can share about it is much apprecciated.

Timothy Smith
Posted: July 1, 2019
Hi Dianne,  I should have looked closer. Thanks for sharing this. Interesting!

This causes many terms and meanings to swim around in my grey matter. 
Digital/analog, recording and sampled recordings.
-Digital/Analog. This is where I thought maybe you had taken many of your recordings and moved them to a digital compressed format hence why you didn't prefer them over analog. In terms of recordings as compiled music moved to a compressed format (mp3, aac) this is understandable. You are not alone in thinking this way. Most serious audiophiles will dispute any kind of compressed format as acceptable compared to well made analog recordings. High resolution uncompressed  digital files are excellent IMO. You may not agree. I'm talking 24/96 high resolution or higher. 

I said compiled recordings or complete music pieces in the above paragraph because I wanted to differentiate that from sampled recordings which can be either analog or digital or use a combination of both. Usually digital is used in sampling which it seems is being done in this example. In that case, the samples are uncompressed and capturing is very meticulous done in thousands of different "takes" that can all be played back on a midi keyboard. Each recording is assigned to a key. One key can have many different levels of volume or articulation. These programs are more like the colors in a painting that we can later reorganize into music.
I use two programs made the same way for violin in compositions sometimes. One is the Joshua Bell violin- Joshua Bell Violin
The other is more of a "fiddle" - !fiddle

Both can be incredibly realistic if used correctly. I suspect these violin samples might be for sale at some point. I can't imagine how much though for such a deep project.

Probably more than you really wanted to know lol!

 

Michael Baumgardner
Posted: July 1, 2019
I was a pretty active amateur photographer for a number of years.  This issue (digital samples/plugins) reminds me of the old days when digital cameras first came out.  They were ok for some purposes, but professionals scoffed at the idea of digital replacing analog film.  The digital images were simply not nearly as good as film.  Many years later, film is dead.  The problem is that digital gets better and better until it eventually surpasses analog.  I suspect this will happen here too.  But I doubt it stops people from actually playing the violin.  Making music with an actual instrument is a rewarding process in itself.  The more music in the world the better as far as I see it!

Dianne
Posted: June 30, 2019
Hi Tim, here's the project.

Timothy Smith
Posted: June 30, 2019
Dianne, when you say digital do you mean compressed digital?

Maria
Posted: June 30, 2019


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Thank you much Dianne, will listen to it...

Dianne
Posted: June 30, 2019
Here is the story about the project.

Dianne
Posted: June 30, 2019
Hi Maria, there are many companies making string plugins, but here is the company doing the Strad project. The project from the museum is not ready yet, but there is a string plugin from the company here.

Maria
Posted: June 30, 2019


HI Dianne [my keyboard acting up...making other letters in capital w/o me doing it]

I wished you could please share the link, I'm curious to hear it...I still have my Aiwa analog amplifier- used it on my karaoke mic lol, no i don't use it often.