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Frank M
Hello Beth:

Could I make a couple of suggestions for the "Community"?

- The first would be to consider changing the sorting order of replies to a thread. Having the oldest responses at the bottom seems awkward (the current arrangement), especially when viewing a thread on a smartphone. You have to scroll all the way to the bottom and then read from "bottom up". I am a member of other forums where the oldest replies are at the top, and it seems to be much more user friendly and intuitive.

- Could a Title be included for each thread, and only that title appear on the main Community pages? Then to see the contents of each thread, you would click on the title links. This convention is also how most other forums with which I am familiar are organized.

My apologies if these have already been suggested.

Thanks for everything!

Frank

Frank M
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Posted: October 8, 2011
Last Comment: October 9, 2011
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Frank M
Posted: October 9, 2011

While on the topic of the text editor, I find a weird behavior when I'm typing with the new text editor:  If I hit the enter key to start a new paragraph, a new "paragraph box" appears with the next paragraph.

If I continue to make more paragraphs, after a few I can no longer see what I'm typing.  It's as if there should be a "scroll" bar for the text field, except the scroll bar is missing, and the text field will not keep expanding or autoscrolling.  So my typing disappears outside of the white text window.

Has anyone else noted this?  As I've already mentioned, I'm using IE 8 on the computer that actually allows the new text editor to be available.


Frank M
Posted: October 9, 2011

I should add that I totally agree with the comments about the aesthetics of this Community and Violin Lab in general.  Beautiful design and color scheme!

Another interesting thing that I found lately:  when posting from my laptop, which has Internet Explorer 7, the new text editor is not available.  With my desktop computer, which has IE 8, I have access to the text editor.


Frank M
Posted: October 9, 2011
There are ways around the problem of wanting to get to the newest posts first, while still starting the sort with the oldest posts:

1) One forum I'm on (Fiddle Hangout) has a green "right arrow" that you click, on the line near the title (they only show titles, as many forums do). When you click on the green arrow, it takes you directly to the last entry in that thread, even if there are multiple pages in that thread. This makes it very easy to get directly to the newest post.

2) Another forum that I'm on (Prius Chat, a car forum) shows me a list of posts that I haven't read since my last time visiting that forum. So if new posts have been added to a thread, that thread will show up in said list. I then click on a "down arrow" icon in that thread title line entitled "first new post", and it takes me to the oldest post in that thread that I haven't read. So for example, if there are 8 pages or replies in a thread, and the last time that I read the thread I was on page 5, clicking on this icon the next time that I visit said thread will take me to the "oldest" of the "new" posts, starting on page 5.

I bring this up to illustrate that with forums it is possible to "have your cake an eat it too", so to speak, depending on how they are designed or the forum engine being used.

Frank


Eileen
Posted: October 9, 2011
Ah yes !   I have learned to use that bookmark option....it comes in quite handy !

Beth Blackerby
Posted: October 9, 2011
sorry. I meant "bookmark"  not "mark as favorite".

Beth Blackerby
Posted: October 9, 2011
Titling our Posts


Simon, that's a fantastic idea! With this new text editor it is easy as pie to create a title for your post.  We could adopt this protocol:

  • click the bold button
  • type your title
  • click the rule button
  • then start typing the post underneath.
As for the order of replies, a long time ago it was the reverse situation where new posts were added to the bottom, but it became very difficult for me to keep up with the latest postings. The way it is now makes it much easier for ma to stay on top of things.

I will ask about changing the pagination so we don't have to click through several pages to find an old post.

Also, don't forget the "mark as favorite" option.  If there's a post you may want to go back and find, one that has a video or a link you want to refer back to, just check mark it, then you can sort by favorites later.

Patricia
Posted: October 9, 2011

I agree with you Eileen. I also move around very well with the way VL’s site is layout.

Patricia


Eileen
Posted: October 9, 2011
I also like the order of the replies as they are and the site layout in general as well.  The only issue I have is what Simon said about threads falling off the bottom of the page and getting lost.   I sometimes have to go searching for a particular thread and that can be a little time consuming, but....all in all I think it's great that it doesn't look like every other forum I've ever been to ! And Beth....the color scheme is fantastic !  Very easy on the eyes !
:-)


Simon
Posted: October 9, 2011
Hi Frank

I like your suggestion of a title for new questions / discussions - I've often struggled to find an old thread (even with the search) and have thought a title might help.  We can do this ourselves by simply using the bold command in the text editor to give our thread a heading.  If the forum got a overhaul, a proper heading box could be added which could allow the view of threads to be collapsed to just see the headings, or expanded as it is now.  One small issue with the current view is that threads quickly get pushed off the bottom of the page and 'lost', even if the topic is still current - a collapsed view would show more on the page.

Personally, I think the sort order work fine - but this will be subjective!  Yes, I  have to scroll to the bottom and read upwards on a new thread, but once I'm familiar with it, new replies are at the top which I find easier to keep up with.  Again, with a re-vamped forum, sort order could perhaps be set as a personal preference.

In support of the work Beth has done, I'd like to say that the design, layout, color scheme etc of the forum is great and gives VL a unique style which works very well - and the new-ish text editor is much better and easier to use!




Patricia
Posted: October 8, 2011

Hi Frank M:

Changing the sorting order of replies, not really Frank. I believe the thread in some others communities are hard to read because you have to browse all the way to the end to read the last comment(s) which are constantly coming in. I prefer the VL way because the minute you click the thread of your interest you have the new incoming comments right there in front of you.

However, if it is something that you read once and that’s the end of it, in this case the ascending chronological order will be appropriate.

About to enter a title, it could be a good idea if it is only in the initial thread being the title the first line and part of the question/suggestion/idea to be posted, not for all the following replies to this thread. I believe we are very spontaneous in our comments and we post them almost as a regular conversation more than a formal letter.

In any case, this is only my opinion. My best!

Patricia

PS.- By the way, if someday you need to find a thread in reference to the subject you are looking for, please notice the VL Community local search window (powered by Google) located to the left of “Submit a Question” button on top of VL Community's screen. This helps a lot to spot what you want.