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Lee Gordon Seebach
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Hi guys,
After many months of doing Beth's vibrato training exercises, I'm finally getting some vibrato working in a piece of music!

I've mostly been doing daily training with #15 from the vibrato course, at different speeds for different fingers.  I feel the progress as my fingers are getting stronger and more and more able to stay down on the fingerboard.  I also use the bow with this exercise using all fingers - completely not in tune with the music, however, and no attempt at it: it's just training to get the bow and left hand working with together.

Here's Tennessee Waltz and Swallowtail Jig, both of which are new to me.  My bow stroke, contact point, and intonation "go out the window" as I focus on getting vibrato, but I'll work on getting them all going together.  At least I'm getting some vibrato!  Woohoo!



Lee Gordon Seebach
14 Responses
Posted: October 5, 2018
Last Comment: October 10, 2018
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Lee Gordon Seebach
Posted: October 10, 2018
Hi Elke,

I tried #8 and yes, I can see that.  I listened to someone play it on YouTube and it really is beautiful, as you say. Thanks!

Hi Susan,

Thanks for commenting.  I'll post another one sometime.  The "trill" was actually my fingers tripping over each other, trying to find the right note.  However, maybe I'm a natural born "triller," who knows?  ha ha


Susan Hollister
Posted: October 9, 2018
It is really fun to see your vibrato emerge! I saw a little trill in there too! Keep up the good work!

Elke Meier
Posted: October 9, 2018
If you want to do Wohlfahrt with vibrato, Lee, try op. 45 #8. It is absolutely beautiful, and it just cries out for vibrato...

Lee Gordon Seebach
Posted: October 9, 2018

Thanks so much guys,


Dianne, Ohhhhh, ok...Wohlfahrt etudes like #4...is that what you meant?  I was thinking of #1 with all eighth notes which I've been training with for many weeks. So, I couldn't understand how you'd have a chance to use vibrato with those notes all strung together.  But yes, I can see it with #4 on the eighth notes.  I tried it and I can do it slowly.  It's a very pleasant etude, I must say. I watched Beth's video for #4, too, so thanks!


Jaime, Thanks again.  I pretty much butchered it in the video, so you are being very kind!  I love Bluegrass instrumentals and jigs and the like.  They're fun!


Nicolinette,  Wow, that's a great video link to practice with.  I'll use it.  Thank you.  And yes, "whole bow!"  :)


Beth, Thanks for your feedback!  I'm so pleased that I'm getting some vibrato.  Your exercises, lessons, and videos are really helping me!  I get so much from ViolinLab that I'm amazed.


Jaime - Orlando , Fl
Posted: October 9, 2018
I love the swallowtail jig as well! :0)
I think jig's are rather challenging, but you are mastering it well!

Beth Blackerby
Posted: October 9, 2018
Lee, the important thing is you can hear your vibrato! That means your doing the right thing. Also I don't see any tension in your arm when you do it, which is something to celebrate. And I think you picked great notes to vibrate on :) Keep it up! 

Nicolinette
Posted: October 8, 2018
Oh, I forgot,
do not be afraid to use the whole bow, so that the "musical magic is invited" :

Nicolinette
Posted: October 8, 2018
étude no 4 Wohlfahrt

Hello everyone

I practice my studies of Wohlfahrt with this link, and here is the number 4 with vibrato ... stay zen ;)


https://youtu.be/UsYJTDS3u5M


Dianne
Posted: October 8, 2018
Vibrato on 8th notes
Hi Lee, Look at @ 5:10 in this video. This section of the video is for advanced players. #4 was the etude my teacher had me start to apply vibrato to 8th notes, which is what Beth is doing here. This is not easy, but even an impulse of shimmer to a note helps the sound. Beth seems to get a lot of width to the vibrato though even at this tempo. I think the pieces you are working on are better for what you are working on with vibrato, as this etude I also find very hard, if not impossible to apply vibrato, without a tired hand. I just thought I'd mention that you seem to have that impulse (motor) going for something like this. You are inspiring me to start posting videos again. I made a few yesterday, but they were so bad I deleted them. Will try again today!

Lee Gordon Seebach
Posted: October 8, 2018
Thanks for the encouragement and feedback Dianne and Jaime,

I tried to play the Wohlfahrt etude with vibrato but don't see how it's possible.  Or do you keep the motor running on full blast and never stop it?  That must be it.  Hmmm.  We'll see.  :)

Jaime - Orlando , Fl
Posted: October 8, 2018
Lee~ 
Great job!! I can hear the vibrato blossoming through! Keep it up!
Thanks for posting!

Dianne
Posted: October 7, 2018
Nice Vibrato
Hi Lee! What a great job you are doing with vibrato! I can see the motor starting on each note. The vibrato you are using I think is the one that would be perfect for fast 8th notes in for instance Wohlfahrt. It is very tiring on the hand to go through a Wohlfahrt like that, until the hand builds up strength, so if your hand isn't tired, you are in shape for it. Everyone has been so quiet here after the practice course and the vibrato course were created. Everyone must be breaking down their practice routines, and practicing vibrato!

As an aside, my vibrato kind of got delayed because of the intense orchestra practice of 4 hours per week. I am going to post my progress on fast notes soon, and ask for everyone's help. But the vibrato is a funny thing. If someone is using a lot of vibrato as a stand partner (I keep getting moved around as we try different acoustical setups- yesterday I sat with a Violin I), then my vibrato takes off- fast, wide and loose like I have never played before! But I can't seem to replicate it without a stand partner getting me going! That is because I am still a beginner at vibrato, but it is able to happen because the exercises I have done here are really working!

Thanks for posting!


Lee Gordon Seebach
Posted: October 5, 2018
Thanks, Alan

Someone else mentioned "arm vibrato" somewhere else when they saw this video.  I didn't realize!  I thought I was doing "wrist" so maybe you're right.  I don't care which it is, though, as long as it works and it feels right for me.  Thanks for pointing this out.

I've been taking private video lessons with Beth - just two so far - and was doing her vibrato exercises for months before she published her course.  So, I skipped over all the exercises prior to #15, although I did watch the videos (most of them, I think).  I like #15 because I can control the speed and the training is wonderful.  I'm increasing the speed gradually as needed.

Thanks again,

Lee

Alan Barnicoat
Posted: October 5, 2018
Hi Lee.

Nice job! I can both see and hear the vibrato quite clearly. I'm also impressed with how straight you maintain your wrist/arm relationship.  Not sure but it looks like you may have  an affinity for arm vibrato...am I right? I haven't reached lesson #15 yet..I'm getting too much shaking right now but you don't seem to have that problem. Thanks for posting your progress.