Community
You must be a member to respond to discussions.
Discussion

Barb Wimmer
This discussion includes members-only video content

It needs something-I think even my usual faithful audience thinks so

Bowing?

Sorry I know you can't see how I am bowing but can hear me, suggestions welcome -but maybe less pressure more pressure? Thoughts?
I was doing the up bow down bowing and slowing the bow at the end.

Thanks for listening

Barb Wimmer
17 Responses
Posted: September 9, 2018
Last Comment: September 13, 2018
Replies

Dianne
Posted: September 13, 2018
This discussion includes members-only video content

Learning Musicality - Not Copying
Barb, if you have the chance, watch this, or skip right to 5:00 minutes in, where this author describes exactly what you are talking about.

Barb Wimmer
Posted: September 12, 2018
This discussion includes members-only video content

Lastly he does sing this song in Spanish

Barb Wimmer
Posted: September 12, 2018
This discussion includes members-only video content

Oh cool canít find him singing in Spanish but here are words subtitles

Barb Wimmer
Posted: September 12, 2018
This discussion includes members-only video content

Mariana   mi perro no tiene miedo a la ca'mara

no hablo espanol bien



Mariana Aguirre
Posted: September 12, 2018
Quť hermosa canciůn cůmo se llama? Tu perrito te robů el show tranquilo te escucha .

Jaime - Orlando , Fl
Posted: September 11, 2018
Thank Barb! I think you got it all... itís just adding the little personal touch and relaxing . You will notice the flow to be so much smoother! :0)
Great incentive it is Elke! , but Iíd be so nervous, with so any emotions running... I really have to build the courage to do it! Hehe . Thank you Dianne. 

I really have to continue working on that bow control.
Another thing I think would help us Barb is playing the song on ONLY open strings.. to continue developing that idea of polishing the string shifts and making the bow changes at the tip and at the frog smoother! Playing the open strings according to the notes. :0)

Elke Meier
Posted: September 11, 2018
Now, Jaime, playing this at your daughter's wedding would be a real incentive to work on killing the sudden jerk at the tip, wouldn't it. :) :) Because this needs absolutely smooth bowing and smooth, inaudible bow changes...

Barb Wimmer
Posted: September 11, 2018
Thanks for article Dianne- first word I notice in it is control. My thought(barbs myth)now finding incorrect-if I analyze each note I will b in controland play each note it at specific part of bow Even to point of pick up bow to find the perfect spot I will get nice crispy sound and if I just play or try to flow and donít analyze each note I will sound skatey and not clear.   
I have found marking up down bows are great and slowing down and speed up now helps. I continue to get a lot out of practice course more I go over it. Jaime you played that song crisp and clear and not skatey and with amazing flow and slowed and speed up bow. Slow and speed bow I get that.  That sounded amazing. Thanks for showing me to more insight into how to play this toward making it flow . I still am a little green on flowing but have more insight on what to do. Beautifully done

Dianne
Posted: September 11, 2018
You Raise Me Up
Jaime, I just listened to your video - Wow! That was great! And I really like that accompaniment you used.

Dianne
Posted: September 10, 2018
Getting The Most Out of A Bow Stroke
Barb, I've been thinking a lot about what you wrote about being able to copy someone's playing just fine, but not being able to do it on your own. I had the exact experience with vibrato- I could copy anyone's vibrato, but could not incorporate it in my own pieces- until the practice course came out. What the practice course gave me was a progression of steps to achieve independence.
What you are talking about here I think is much the same thing, because it is exactly what I want to do also, and it reminds me of the dilemma I had with vibrato. We need to build a foundation of expressive bow techniques, so that they are there when we need them. What Jaime wrote about holding note values is a very good point. That definitely needs to be checked to see that we don't cut off notes. Beth has written this very thing to me in a couple of cases. I wasn't even aware of it until I started counting with a pulse and listening for connectedness (unless separation is what was intended i.e.Baroque or some specific articulation).
Have you read this article? Although it is intended for Baroque playing, the concepts can be applied to any era. You can register for free to read the whole thing. It is an incredibly rich article on, among other things, how to build bow speed exercises into our practice routine. This is what I was talking about earlier in this thread, that it is on my to do list. I see performers using their bows like paintbrushes, and they know where they are in the bow at all times, and they create color by keeping the bow moving. This is what I want to work on next. Perhaps this will help you also.

Jaime - Orlando , Fl
Posted: September 10, 2018
This discussion includes members-only video content

You are doing MAGNIFICENT Barb! 
You know the song and play it superb, but now I think is adding.... a little more.... ease, a little more personal.... make it YOURS.... own it!... just play it with all your heart! I know you got this! :0)

Here's a  little rendition.... pardon the oopsies and my new nemesis.... bow control! hehe...

Just wanted to give you my take on it.... hope you like! 
You inspire me.... I get a little emotional thinking IF I will play it on my daughter's wedding next year! :0)

Barb Wimmer
Posted: September 10, 2018
Thanks Jaime-trying to figure out flowing in playing. I hear it and can copy how someone plays but when I read notes and I can read notes flow is my goal but doesnít happen maybe cause Iím analyzing each note I donít know

Jaime - Orlando , Fl
Posted: September 10, 2018
Wonderful!!! 
You've done great Barb!!!!!!
I second Dianne's observation about the  bowing.... perhaps a little more.... "joined"...
Intonation is SPOT ON.... tempo.... spot on.... but if I make any sense of what I'm about to say.... let each note earn its full allotted time...even if its a quarter or an eight note... fill its time so it doesn't "cut" short... and then it flows more "joined"...

Ive been practicing a version of the song.... I will post it for you when I have a chance :0)
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING!!! 
YOU ARE DOING GREAT!!!! :0)


Barb Wimmer
Posted: September 9, 2018
Thanks Dianne- bowing. When I think bowing I now think middle bow eighth notes and put in your up and down bows and slower bow at end of phrase or end of piece. And crescendos and decrescendo based on how u hear music. And move toward bridge louder and away softer. Each phrase I think I can figure out a phrase   I guess end phrase but donít stop. I feel like i got a lot of it now but feel may be missing something- music terminology vs barb language still working on. 

Dianne
Posted: September 9, 2018
Well Played!
Barb, this was well played. I don't think I've heard you play better than this- you really felt the piece as Maria mentioned and applied technical skills to achieve it. I heard so much connection between bow changes, that kept the musical line going. I think if you now did even more of this- trying not to stop the sound until the absolute end of the phrase, it would draw us in even more. This is easier said than done. Connecting the music at the bow changes ,and keeping the phrase together ,takes a great deal of skill (one that is on my to do list). Yes, and more dynamic range. I believe that adding more than you think is necessary will come through fine in the video. You could try planning the bow for the dynamic you want, so it would be easier to achieve. Without seeing your bowing, this is just an idea. Thanks for posting this!

Barb Wimmer
Posted: September 9, 2018
Thanks Maria. Iím glad didnít sound like it was belting out thru whole song. I sometimes do that to try and make effect  and find no diversity then. Beth bowing helps. 

Maria
Posted: September 9, 2018


That was so tenderly and beautifully played Barb...Sweet and moving too, I think I like the way you played it. I remember a prof singer [Lea Salonga] said, no need to belt out or scream  at all.

As for forte or piano, listen to the singer or someone playing it on piano or violin on YT...