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Beth Blackerby
Hi all, I've been looking for a platform to hold informal sessions with VL members to trouble shoot, play for each other and receive live feedback. There is a platform called Zoom, which looks to be set up for such a thing. I'd like to give it a trial run. I can use it for free to hold a "meeting" for less than 40 minutes. I'd like to do it on Mother's Day, Sunday, May 13th. I won't set a time until I see who wants to try this out with me.

Know that much of the session will be me figuring out the platform. There is a host panel that I will be operating while hanging out with you. 

I'd love for someone to volunteer to play, but it's not a requirement. We can see how it all works the first time. If it's successful and fun, I'll be incorporating it in the future roll out of the website. 

If you want to try this, email me so I can put your name on a list to send out the link where you can "join the meeting."
Beth Blackerby
49 Responses
Posted: May 3, 2018
Last Comment: May 17, 2018
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Assumpció Segura
Posted: May 17, 2018
Fantastic Beth !!!!
You're the best!!!


Beth Blackerby
Posted: May 16, 2018
Assupció, I love your idea. Scheduling the pieces in advance so that others can take a look and have them to make markings or write down tips is a great idea. I will definitely make the session more focused and consider how to make it a wonderful learning experience for those who don't play.

Kim Thomas
Posted: May 16, 2018
Missed it!
Woah.
Totally didn't follow up on this thread and missed the masterclass!
LOL!

Maybe next time!

Steph
Posted: May 15, 2018
Damn, just saw this tonight...
hope, I'll see the next one early enough to attend...

Assumpció Segura
Posted: May 15, 2018
Hello Beth and violinlabbers!

I wanted to know your opinion about some ideas I have about the zoom sessions.

I think it's great that some people can play and that Beth can correct or advise, while the rest of the participants can see, hear and ask, all live ... we tried it on Sunday and it was fun and fantastic. ! Bravo Beth for this idea!

My opinion is that we should focus the sessions so that the participants who play and those who do not play can learn a lot.

I have thought some ideas, I do not know if they can be useful ...

The general idea is to create a structure for the meetings that allows Beth to schedule them in advance and to all the participants who wish to prepare pieces, questions ... for that session.

My proposal would be to create sessions in which all the participants can know in advance the pieces that will be played and with which Beth will work, so that each participant who does not play them knows the pieces in advance and can study them or look at them before the meeting. . . . (if they want).

Also include in each session some concrete techniques to work that day and be able to comment and briefly ask Beth the problems we have with each of these techniques.

Finally also a part for general questions.

And maybe a differentiation of sessions by levels ...

An example of a session could be:
(it's just an example)

Part A: two techniques to work in this session :( Beth can choose them or the participants can propose them ...)

1.Change of strings
2.Vibrato

Part B: three participants and pieces:

1.John: Gavotte (Bach)
2.María: Siciliana (Telemann Fantasy)
3.Peter: Study n. ° 1 (Wohlfahrt)

Part C: general questions.

I think that to keep the attention of the participants, if there are no technical problems ... the sessions of no more than 1 hour would be perfect!

Surely with time and if we try, this can be an innovative and very interesting tool to learn live!
Beth is a fantastic teacher !!!!! 

What do you think about??


Barb Wimmer
Posted: May 14, 2018
I have the app and am interested in participating. 

Lee Gordon Seebach
Posted: May 14, 2018
Hi Elke and Beth,  Thank you for the info.  Perhaps I can join next time after all!  :)

Ted Adachi
Posted: May 14, 2018
I forgot about Robyn's playing! Yes, Robyn too deserves a big congratulations for finishing off the session (I was having some technical problems at this point so missed some of it).

Again, bravo to the brave ones who played.

Robyn Stirling
Posted: May 14, 2018
I just want to weigh in and say that I had so much fun last night with with the live zoom. I've done lessons online before and it really is good to be able to rewatch the recording again.
BUT... in saying that I have also not been able to get through some of my recordings because I'm cringing tho whole way through it and I suspect it's because my nerves have gotten to me, and people are going to watch my nerves get the better of me and it deteriorates from there. So from that perspective I'm enjoying the zoom with no recordings. It's was also so good to see familiar faces and put new faces to names I've seen on the forum for so long

Beth Blackerby
Posted: May 14, 2018
Another reason I don't want to record, is that recording the sessions will encourage people to not attend live, and then skim through and watch later. I really want to build an exciting live experience. 

Does it need to be polished? Of course not! We can make these sessions whatever we want them to be. I will think about how to have different focuses. One could be for "polished" performances, one could be for works in progress, one for beginners, etc.

Lee, I'm sure Zoom has set out to make the platform accessible enough for anyone to attend. They have an app which would improve quality for devices. I think if you're able to watch the videos here on the website, you'll certainly have enough bandwidth to watch and observe. You don't have to have a webcam or have it turned on.

Ted Adachi
Posted: May 14, 2018
Well as one of the 'silent' ones, I have to congratulate both Dianne and Elke for performing so well under such stressful conditions.

We were all stepping off into the deep end on a new adventure but you two took the BIG leap. Well done!

Elke Meier
Posted: May 14, 2018
Lee, not everyone present also presented. Actually, there were 11 of us last night, but only two played. So, don't worry about participating as a beginner. Don't think of it so much as a "master"-class but as an opportunity to sit in on a lesson :).

Jane Belmare
Posted: May 14, 2018
Thanks Beth. This was fun. I can understand that for those who were not in attendance it seems like a lost learning opportunity but to record the sessions would add a great deal more pressure and maybe lost spontaneity.  Hopefully I’ll have a working voice next time. 

Dianne
Posted: May 14, 2018
Hi Elke, thanks. :) I unchecked all non default video and audio options. Perhaps it was the HD being set. Not sure but all is fine now.

Lee Gordon Seebach
Posted: May 14, 2018
I would like to participate in these but as a noobie, that wouldn't be appropriate for a Master Class, plus my internet connection wouldn't be up to speed for this, I don't think.  At the same time, I'd like to watch a recording so I can steal a few ideas!  I'd be very interested in that.  

So record my vote as "for" recording these.  Hope my feedback helps.

Elke Meier
Posted: May 14, 2018
Ha, Dianne, I for sure was glad you were caught on the spot and could not present something completely polished :) - it gave at least me some wonderful practicing tips!! Thank you for going ahead anyway, even though you were not comfortable with it :). 

And out of curiosity: what was the setting that you adjusted later which would have solved the video problem? 

Assumpció Segura
Posted: May 14, 2018
Thank you very much Beth!

It would be great to be able to translate it, at least in some moments :)

Dianne
Posted: May 14, 2018
Here's my take on yesterday's masterclass... it was great to see everyone! For me, it was not a great experience, because I had a setting wrong on setup and my video was not matching with my audio for others to see. (This was not a zoom problem at all but my setup and I fixed it after the masterclass.) But the real problem was for two reasons- I arrived late because I thought it started an hour later-the time change caught me! So, in my church dress I had not even the violin out! To make matters worse, when I went to choose a piece for the masterclass a week ago- I found I did not have one single polished piece to play. I have been working on so many techniques that I dropped reviewing any piece. I truly hope atleast my piece of it will not be repeated Barb! My take away for masterclass- work on a piece until it has some polish and then let Beth take it to the next level. Masterclass not intended for 'work in progress' because then only a few minutes feedback possible. I find when something happens like this then I go in a different direction, so I would not change anything and wish to say- thank you for the experience of masterclass. Thank goodness I did not have this happen in a workshop- I have newfound respect for workshop masterclasses.

Beth Blackerby
Posted: May 14, 2018
Thank you for your responses, everyone. 

We will do it again and again! I don't plan on recording these events. I think knowing that they are being recorded to post later might add another layer of nervousness for the performers. It would for me. Also, I want people to experience the live thing and not rely on delayed playback. There's a wonderful energy that can't be replicated if you watch later. But I realize people's schedules won't easily coincide with the times I choose to host the events, so I will try and have multiple times scheduled to accommodate our various times zones. We are so global :)

Assumpció, I will do better to speak slower and articulate better. I don't want anyone to feel lost and left out. If these sessions become popular, perhaps I can entice my daughter to help translate. It would be good for her to put her Spanish major to good use!!

Janice Branley
Posted: May 14, 2018
Hi Beth,
the online class yesterday, was such a positive experience; thank you!  I can immediately include in my practice, some of the ideas you discussed.  I enjoyed seeing some of our community members too; and hearing how they are tackling different music. Bravo! 

Katja
Posted: May 14, 2018

Oh, what a wonderful idea! And I missed it! Haven't been here as much as I would hace wanted....

Hope there will be a next session - I'm sure it will be very beneficial for so many of us vlabbers. .

I have used zoom sessions for other things and it has been a very good platform


Assumpció Segura
Posted: May 14, 2018

Thank you very much, Beth! the connection has been fantastic, the image, the sound of words, of the violín ... everything arrives perfectly at the same moment!

My husband and I connect from Spain with an iPad, but I think the ideal connection is through a computer.

I like the idea a lot! but for those of us who do not have a high level of English it was very difficult for us to follow all the conversations and we missed many things ...

Maybe at some point you can establish a connection with the Spanish translation for those who do not understand English ... because otherwise it is very difficult or almost impossible to participate ... because everything is very fast

Even for my husband, who knows a little English, it was very difficult for him to follow the conversations ...

The platform works and it can be a great meeting place! but I think we should be able to speak and understand English fluently in order to participate.

It's been great to see you and hear you live Beth !!

Edmon and Assumpció

 



Barbara Habel
Posted: May 14, 2018
Will there be a replay so that we who did not participate can also watch it?

Elke Meier
Posted: May 13, 2018
Thank you for putting it on! What a great idea! I very much enjoyed it and look forward to the next one! 

Beth Blackerby
Posted: May 13, 2018
Thanks to all who attended the first virtual masterclass. What fun it was to see and talk with you. I would like to do more in the future, so be thinking about taking the opportunity to give yourself a practice goal. While working on the practice course I see the value of having a performance )albeit informal) to provide extra incentive and focus to practice. Few of us have these opportunities, and what nicer way than to play for a very supportive and understanding audience.  I'll be in touch with the time and date for our next one.

Jerry Wright
Posted: May 6, 2018
I cannot make this one due to vacation, however, I would like to join if you hold more of them in the future.  Fantastic idea.

Jaime - Orlando , Fl
Posted: May 6, 2018
2pm central time, that would be 3 pm eastern ( Florida ) time..... 

So we just go to ZOOM and sign in?
I'm much eager to play! perhaps our Gavotte exercise,  but given is mothers day, not sure if I will be available at all... so cant commit at this juncture :0(

I hope if can sign in ... perhaps I can  be one of those "walk ins" on Sunday! hehe

Mary Reeley
Posted: May 6, 2018
Hi Beth    I would be interested in participating!  I would be able to play too, if you like,   I am working on the first Seitz in book 4 and would love some feedback!!

Sonia Lancaster
Posted: May 6, 2018
Guangjiu, I guess it depends where in China you are. Beijing looks as though it’s on the same time zone as New York

Barbara Habel
Posted: May 6, 2018
Would love to see the replay. Wish you every success with this.

Urban Kristan
Posted: May 5, 2018
Won't be able to make it, but would be interested to see the video. Will it be published? 

guangjiu wu
Posted: May 5, 2018
detail time
not sure  china students has the chance to attend the meeting,mainly due to the time zone different, hope it works for us , if possible we will join also.

Fabiano Formiga de Carvalho
Posted: May 5, 2018
Beth,

You're opening surely new pathes in the violin teaching. A vigorous breakthrough. I wish you a complete success in it.

I have been coughing continuously these days, so I'll not be able to share this interesting experience with you. I'll be there spiritually.

Your eternal disciple, Fabiano





Ray
Posted: May 5, 2018
Just made my account with Zoom and will be downloading the app.

Barb Wimmer
Posted: May 5, 2018
sounds interesting. If not too techy I am interested

Sonia Lancaster
Posted: May 5, 2018
Thanks Beth, no problem. I think you may be able to record the session and put a link up to it later, so we can watch a replay later.

Have fun 
Sonia

kurosh
Posted: May 5, 2018
Hi Beth,
this sounds like a fantastic idea. Please add me to your list of volunteer participants for the trial run on May 13th.
kurosh

Ray
Posted: May 5, 2018
Thanks Beth.  I certainly would like to listen in on the discussion.  I will be between jobs so that will likely work for me.  Thanks for putting this together.  

Beth Blackerby
Posted: May 5, 2018
For this first meeting, let's aim for 2:00 pm US central  Here's a link to a convenient time difference calculator (thanks, Sonia). For those of you across the globe (Sonia), I will schedule an evening one for you and others at a later date. 

I'll put all of you who have expressed intent on my list to contact a few days before, so on Friday. Then I'll send out another one for you to log on with. I do know that if you're using a mobile device, you have to download the zoom app, so you may want to go ahead and do that. There's also a web app to download for desktops, although that may be optional. I'm excited to give this a try!!

If you're interested but freaked out that I'm expecting you to play, don't be! This is more about connecting as a group to discuss, trouble shoot and throw around ideas. If anyone wants to play, then great! Since this is a free trial, we'll be limited to 40 minutes.

Here's the Zoom website to check out.

Kim Thomas
Posted: May 5, 2018
Potentially interested!
I depends on my Mothers Day plans!

But I’ll keep my eye on this post!

Assumpció Segura
Posted: May 5, 2018
I would be interested to see how it works!
I think it's a very good idea!
Thanks, Beth.

Janice Branley
Posted: May 4, 2018
I would be interested to see this event too.

Sonia Lancaster
Posted: May 4, 2018
Happy to play :) 

Sonia Lancaster
Posted: May 4, 2018
Would love to be involved. Australian time permitting, not really into 3am 😂 

Elke Meier
Posted: May 4, 2018
If your daughter is not available I could also translate, Beth, although I am not really fluent any more and I would have a problem finding the correct violin terms in Spanish. But I am sure we could make it work.

Beth Blackerby
Posted: May 3, 2018
That's good to know, Robyn. 

Mariana, I could ask my daughter to join me and translate. At least she could translate my response to you if you volunteer to play. She's fluent in Spanish.

Ray
Posted: May 3, 2018
I may be interested at a later date.  Looking forward to observe the session.  Great idea and wish you the best of luck. 

Robyn Stirling
Posted: May 3, 2018
I'm tentativley going to yes depending on time with timezones in uk :)
I have used zoom before it is really good for what you're doing


Mariana Aguirre
Posted: May 3, 2018
Me gustaria pero no hablo bien ingles.
Y like it but my inglish is bad