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Janice Branley |
This discussion includes members-only video content Elke started some interest in the Sevcik Opus 3 and this is where I am with the variation 1. I've been doing so much with vibrato that I thought it would be a good antidote to do some hopping near the frog, lol. I think I missed a few up bows! Janice Branley 14 Responses Posted: January 13, 2018 Last Comment: January 14, 2018 |
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![]() Dianne Posted: January 14, 2018 |
Yes, I too like the bowings in Beth's video response! These resemble the advanced lifted strokes in the middle of the bow in the early Suzuki repertoire tutorials and more. I am going to work on these! |
Jaime - Orlando , Fl Posted: January 14, 2018 |
Janice, well done! It seems Sevcik is indeed a very challenging collection of etudes! You did very well and once more, I am looking forward to try them out eventually! Thank you so much for posting! Enjoyed your performance and the lively tune! :0) |
Janice Branley Posted: January 14, 2018 |
Elke, I found that too when I practised it today. Maria, i'm happy i made it look easy as that means i'm making progress with it. I have my jigs and reels background to thank for the rhythm as I have triplets and 5note irish rolls ingrained in me. |
![]() Maria Posted: January 14, 2018 |
I typed a long response earlier but all was lost... I remembered I said that you made this etude so easy but I know it's not, also that your rhythm was excellent...I'm getting sleepy, gudnite... |
![]() Elke Meier Posted: January 14, 2018 |
I practiced it according to the markings (colle, all at the frog). Now when I tried it with Beth's instructions it feels I have to start all over again! It feels like a completely different etude... |
Janice Branley Posted: January 13, 2018 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc7yb-KfLX0 This is another video with two cellists who help to describe these variations, what I liked vayia is how they used them in different ways to make them 'work' for the purposes. They are so relaxed it makes them seem less hard work and more of a discovery of the sound. I laughed when they said, "of course on the violin it's easier" hahahahaha... |
Vayia UK Posted: January 13, 2018 |
Thank you Beth. It is interesting how the same étude can be approached from different angles, serving different training aims. Opus 2 & 3 belong to the "Development of the right hand" series and this made me look at these variations as exercises for the right hand... I need to expand my horizons! |
![]() Beth Blackerby Posted: January 13, 2018 |
Vayia, yes, in the way you're describing and in the way the player on the video is doing it, it's an exercise in collé, or "moving the bow with the fingers". He's using fingers only to get a good "finger motion" workout. I was coming at it more from the aspect of a performance etude. I recently came across piano accompaniments, written later by someone else. I recorded several of these with a pianist to use for a local seminar. So because if that, I was treating them more of little cute pieces. But I also use them to develop bow hand control, and in that way, definitely, playing them at the frog is the way to do it. |
Vayia UK Posted: January 13, 2018 |
Beth, in the étude it specifies 'Fr' so playing at the frog. I analysed this variation with my teacher and this video comes close to our conclusion: youtube It would be great to read your comments on this video, thank you. |
Janice Branley Posted: January 13, 2018 |
That's so useful Beth, I will try this. I think my 'trad' background has taught me to use wrist and fingers for triplets and it is refreshing to try and start bringing in a more connected approach with the whole arm changing as you described. The dropping of the arm on the first notes almost seems to add a natural weight to the strokes and then the up bows are even more flighty in comparison. The circular motion on the short notes makes perfect sense too. Thank you! |
![]() Beth Blackerby Posted: January 13, 2018 |
This discussion includes members-only video content Janice, sorry for the bad audio. Didn't have my settings right. |
Mary Freeman Posted: January 13, 2018 |
Your rhythm is fabo Try more wrist motion sounds great |
Janice Branley Posted: January 13, 2018 |
Thanks Dianne, It's funny that when I'm playing I feel I am at the frog but it shows why it is good to record sometimes, because there is way more room to go, I'll try next time to get nearer. |
![]() Dianne Posted: January 13, 2018 |
Hi Janice, nice! You are using a lot of wrist and fingers for this. The only thing I can say is to suggest moving closer to the frog for the further articulation and control that you will get. Thanks for posting this! |