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Gavin Huhoff
Hi Beth, I want to practice this very nice small part (first very slowly). Sad to say, i don't know the name for that classical Song you played at 1:00. I only understood "Opening G-Minor" ? Thank you !

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Gavin Huhoff
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Posted: August 13, 2011
Last Comment: August 16, 2011
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Beth Blackerby
Posted: August 16, 2011
Aha! The vestiges of the old church modes. Thanks Anne.

jojo
Posted: August 15, 2011
that's right Anne, you just reminded me, it's the same with the Bach double concerto.  I have the music for that and it also has the same thing with the key signature!

the preface says (G.Henle Verlag edition):
The Double Concerto does not pose any major editorial problems. However, it should be borne in mind that Bach notated the outside movements in the 'Dorian Mode', i.e. in our case without a  key signature, whereas the 'Largo ma non tanto' is given the customary key signature for F major.

In fact the Bach double is a piece in 'D-minor' but when you look at the first movement it has 'no key signature' and has 'accidentals' in it :)

Anne aMaudPowellFan
Posted: August 15, 2011
Beth, I checked the signature thing out when I learned the G minor sonata: Bach notated it in the Dorian mode, starting from G. The Dorian mode has the same whole-step/half-step patterns as natural minor, with the exception of a high sixth degree (in G minor the sixth degree is Eb, and in Dorian the sixth degree starting from G is E). But the harmonies are really G minor, not Dorian, so he added Eb inline or left E and added F# for harmonic minor. It is interesting historically since at that point in time obviously there were still remnants of the Dorian mode still alive and the minor mode not yet firmly established. Or Bach wanted to show off how learned he was???

Anyway, this is a great reminder, since I have been puzzling about the keys in the Bartok Romanian Dances. Some are basically but not quite in minor keys. Will check tomorrow if they match any of the old church modes.

jojo
Posted: August 15, 2011
oh that's ok, I know what they are, it's jus that I call them 'electric violins' LOL

I used to have a yamaha SV200


but never ended up playing it as I love my 'classical' violin too much LOL so I sold it after having played it only 3 or 4 times.  Was lucky though as I managed to sell it at only $50 less than the price I bought it :)

KarenJ
Posted: August 15, 2011

Ha! i found my reference, i knew i wasn't crazy.  it was an overlay in the String Crossings Series: part 2: Micro Levels around 8:15

Gavin Huhoff
Posted: August 15, 2011

Hi jojo,

An E-Violine is an elektric violine. There is a piezo-elektric Pickup under the bridge. I connect the intrument to my professional audiointerface. The picture below shows my violin.  


jojo
Posted: August 15, 2011
what's an 'e-violin'???? now you really 'got me'!!! LOL

Gavin Huhoff
Posted: August 15, 2011

Thank you for that Tip.

But i think i should better step back first and concentrate on the practice lessons for beginners. Now im playing about for a week, and i made many proceedings also with the great video tutorials. My intonation, the fingerspacings etc. But just now it feels like i made a big regression. I don't know what is happened. Nothing will work fine. The E-Violin sounds horrible. My read is,  i washed my Bow with shampoo (Tip by a violin maker), if there is too much rosin on it. Oh dear ! I think i can put the bow directly in the carbage bin. (If i had seen Beths' Video about "rosinin the bow" first, i think that never will be happened!)  What was my intention to do that ? I don't know - I'm a fool.

I think  i will put the E-Violin afterwards in the trashcan and buy a proper violin for beginners by Karl Höfner near my dealer.I think really i have the talent. But not with this equipment. A week ago it was so nice starting with that intrument. I really had sleepless nights only thinking about the violin.

Karen, i may take up on it when the time is come :-)  

 

Gavin   


Beth Blackerby
Posted: August 15, 2011
Here's the original. Sorry for the poor picture quality.


I just noticed for the FIRST TIME that Bach wrote the key signature in D minor (not G minor), and the E flat's are all added as accidentals. I checked with the facsimile of the original manuscript, and that's how Bach wrote it.  I wonder why he did that...





Karen, the link to the video in question is underneath Gavin's original post.

KarenJ
Posted: August 15, 2011

don't forget she changed the key from the original to make it applicable to more of us.  the original is g- minor.  this is G major.

I can't seem to find the video this was done in.


Gavin Huhoff
Posted: August 15, 2011


Hi Karen,

That is really a handsome gesture. Thank you this !

Gavin


KarenJ
Posted: August 15, 2011

I made this from the desscription in the video.  i think it's correct but may be missing the last note or 2.


jojo
Posted: August 14, 2011
Thanks to Gavin's post I ended up watching this video which I never watched before :)

it was 'interesting' as my teacher 'always' got me to do what Beth explains in this 'extreme conditioning' part 3 video, but he never told me WHY he gets me to do these things (indeed I never asked him so I am equally 'guilty' hehehehe).  As a 'good' student I just 'do as I am told', but now thanks to Beth I know the reason why :) :) :) ;) 

thanks Beth

Beth Blackerby
Posted: August 13, 2011
Hi Gavin, I did mumble that rather quickly. It was the Presto movement from the 1st Unaccompanied Violin Partita by J.S. Bach.