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Janice
Yeah just bought Suzuki 4.  I don't really know why as I'm not ready for it yet, but I will sit down and read it.  I like sitting looking at music - singing along, practising rhythms etc. Something to do when you can't actually have your violin out.  In the meantime going to keep at Suzuki 3 - so much technique in that book!
Janice
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Posted: October 7, 2017
Last Comment: October 18, 2017
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Janice
Posted: October 18, 2017
Hi Robyn good for you buying grade 6 abrsm!!  Yes since the workshop I am still working on the Hess and the Locatelli.  Tbqh it just fills me with shame that I ever actually took the exam, as although I am improving it still sounds pretty awful...  my main problem intonation.  I gave up lessons after the workshop as I just felt I needed to spend time consolidating and I have definitely had some success with that.  Lots of shifting, learning names of notes in different positions, saying out loud what position I'm in, trying to improve my postures, bow arm (I STILL swing from the shoulder!!). I still feel I have huge amounts of material to keep me going, but I do miss lessons and have definitely become lazier re practice, although I rarely miss a day.  I don't know about the comparison between ABRSM and Suzuki either, but just went with Beth's suggestion that I work on 3 and I'm finding there is a wealth of technique in that book - plenty to keep me occupied.  I have noticed that I can play the double stops in the Locatelli considerably better.  I think my left hand is developing a more open frame.  It just goes to show no amount of slogging away fixes things, if the technique isn't in place.  I worked so hard on them and could never do them and now they feel very much better.  I'm also doing a lot of separating the bow from left hand,  as beth suggested at workshop,  across the board.  This is a fantastic help in all things.  All for now - nice to be in touch with everyone hearing what we're up to and also my big news is I'm back to Benslow next month - just can't wait!

Dianne
Posted: October 14, 2017
Where I had seen the playing of the scale with 1st one string, then the other, and then the double stop here on VLab was in the Thirds: part 3 G scale in thirds video starting at 3:55. This was exactly what I employed to the Trott etudes, even though one of the notes was an open string in the 1st 8 etudes. After I did this, then when I went back and played each piece, it somehow seemed easier. I had great success with this!

Dianne
Posted: October 14, 2017
The AMEB is the Australian Music Examinations Board. The idea of playing one string and then the other to balance before playing the double stop is in Simon Fischer's Basics book. I also found an AMEB Grade 6 double stop scale video but I can't find it again. I employed the idea and it made the Trott etudes much easier.

Elke Meier
Posted: October 14, 2017
Sorry, Dianne, I still don't understand. What does AMEB mean? What is an AMEB double stop? What kind of scales are those? And where do you find it in the library?

When I got back to my violin now just a few days ago I got out Josephine Trott again because I felt that I would probably get my fingers to remember their places easier if I started with double stops. I had started practicing double stops a long, long time ago but didn't get very far. Now I understand why: My left hand at that time was far too tense to do a series of double stops without cramping up. It seems a bit easier now. That is encouraging :).

Dianne
Posted: October 14, 2017
Yes, it's actually also in the VLab video, but with scales. Playing 1st one note, then the other, then putting them together. The AMEB is what Sonia is working toward.

Elke Meier
Posted: October 14, 2017
What are AMEB double stops? Can you explain?

Dianne
Posted: October 14, 2017
Hi Robyn, in general, I think the ABRSM Grade 6 would be Suzuki Book 5 for example.

For the Trott book, I found it easier to start the first 8 pieces in book 1 the way the AMEB double stop scales are done. It really helped.

You guys are playing simply amazing pieces!

Robyn Stirling
Posted: October 14, 2017
I'm still at a loss as to how Suzuki books compare to ABRSM. In our chamber music group we're doing the Vivaldi A minor which is book 4 but my desk partner is using her grade 7 one which matches my copy battered photocopy from my teacher.
In saying that my desk partner is doing her grade 8 and completely stumped by sautille yet it comes in book four of the ten Suzuki books.

 Janice, I've been reviewing and evaluating alot and went through all the master class videos and decided to get the ABRSM grade 6 and will attempt the Locatelli, Mascagni and Hess. I've given myself till 2019, given I still have to do the grade 5 theory or an Open University course that starts next September ( I baulked at the last minute this September which I regret now) so it will be interesting. I also bought the Melodious Double Stops Beth mentions in one of her videos which I hoping will help with all the double stops in both the Suzuki and ABRSM as I seem to be encountering more and more of them (and the Teleman fantasies that Stephen played in May, in short it's not safe to let me into a music store unless my purse is taken off me).

How have you been finding the Locatelli since the workshop in May?
Best
Robyn



Dianne
Posted: October 12, 2017
Hi Janice, Missed posting on this one! I think it's a great idea to be a book or 2 ahead to listen to the pieces. But I don't want to get tired of hearing them either! That's where I think being creative and going deeper helps. I also have book 5!

Barbara Habel
Posted: October 7, 2017
Dear Janice

You can practice those double stops by playing scales or just simply finger patterns and play the adjacent string as a drone. It helps with intonation and is a good practice for double stops. Ayoub was the one to inspire me with those. They are fun to practice and when the time comes to do double stops in a piece it will be easier to play them.

Nice to see that you are still around.

Maria
Posted: October 7, 2017
Hello Janice, glad to hear from you again and thank you much for your positive comment on my practice video...First time I got a positive review on rhythm, this is one of my weak areas, it must be the time of practice after having a restful sleep.

Book 4 has lots of chords and DS...That is my stumbling block, that is when Mrs. Trot comes in and I admit it's my enemy lol! It's so hard to hit 2 strings and be on tempo at the same time. I tend to tense up right away-that is when I stop and drifted away in 2008.